Inara: I think she looks adorable. Mal: Yeah, but I never said it.

'Shindig'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

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§ ita § - May 20, 2004 10:14:59 am PDT #1071 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This black leather jacket (no size) was worn on screen in Episode 4, Season 5 by Angel on the television show "Angel."

Well, two lucky people got their own from the W&H Revue. Probably cheaper, and certainly for a better cause.

Why can't Angel sign away his shot at Shanshu? It may never even have been him. If the words had said "ex-Liam to become human," then I think there's no wiggle room. But I can totally see there being a mystical way to remove himself for consideration.

Did he sign the contract with the Evil Pricks, or did he sign it with reality? Or TPTB?


jengod - May 20, 2004 10:16:49 am PDT #1072 of 3531

By the way, Joss, that ending really just encourages the fanfiction people sooo much.

I kinda liked how Angel was left with nobody alive (or likely to be alive) but crazy supernatural rivals. Lorne & Connor left, true; but Gunn's probably gonna die and he don't like Spike or Illyria.

Illyria, also? HOT! Like a blue flame.


jengod - May 20, 2004 10:17:04 am PDT #1073 of 3531

Allyson - May 20, 2004 10:17:41 am PDT #1074 of 3531
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Well, two lucky people got their own from the W&H Revue. Probably cheaper, and certainly for a better cause.

The green oatmeal one was raffled, I've no idea how many tickets went into it.

The other was auctioned for $800.00

Much worthier cause, yes.


DCJensen - May 20, 2004 10:20:02 am PDT #1075 of 3531
All is well that ends in pizza.

Wait, we need Peter Wingfield to show up as the immortal, too.

Buffy: "Angel, Bob, Bob, Angel"

Angel: "Bob?"

Buffy rolls her eyes. "The Immortal"

Angel: "Your name is Bob?"

Bob. "Well, it is this decade. Robert, actually."


jengod - May 20, 2004 10:21:52 am PDT #1076 of 3531

Party people--I just got asked by an editor to do an Angel series wrapup, but I only caught the last 20 mins. Did I get all the good storyline stuff in that bracket? Does anybody know of a good non-TWOP recaplet? I am a helpless kitten fantastico... :)


Lilty Cash - May 20, 2004 10:22:29 am PDT #1077 of 3531
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Am I the only one who interpreted "You won't last ten minutes" as a reference to his ability to fight while wounded, rather than "in ten minutes your wounds will kill you"?

I don't know, I took it as a "ten minutes before your wound kills you." From Illyria's "You have only moments," with Wes, diagnosing the human condition seems to be a specialty- and she's done that before, with her "This one warms to me" with Connor. Maybe she doesn't understand everything about human emotion and intellect, but she seems to see everything about the actual vessel.


Dana - May 20, 2004 10:24:22 am PDT #1078 of 3531
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

But I'm also pretty convinced he willingly surrendered it (or thought he did) and that's all that matters to me, in a finale like Not Fade Away.

Absolutely.

But I can totally see there being a mystical way to remove himself for consideration.

I'm just saying, every time we've seen a prophecy, they've come true. I agree it could refer to Spike or some as-yet unsouled vampire. When people try to mess with prophecies, it never works.


§ ita § - May 20, 2004 10:27:58 am PDT #1079 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm just saying, every time we've seen a prophecy, they've come true.

Without a doubt. And if Angel did sign himself out of it, it still very easily could, was my way of seeing it.


Jessica - May 20, 2004 10:29:27 am PDT #1080 of 3531
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

When people try to mess with prophecies, it never works.

That's where I stand, too. My first comment (in my spoiler summary, which, Jengod, if you want to use, is here) on the signing away of the Shanshu was:

What the Circle needs him to do is sign away, in blood, any chance that Angel will ever earn his humanity. (Which, editorially, is all very well and compelling, but if we've learned anything from this show, isn't it that that sort of thing never works? The Father Will Kill The Son, anyone? The son of the vampire with a soul will kill Sahjhan? But anyway.)