Am I the only one who interpreted "You won't last ten minutes" as a reference to his ability to fight while wounded, rather than "in ten minutes your wounds will kill you"?

I don't know, I took it as a "ten minutes before your wound kills you." From Illyria's "You have only moments," with Wes, diagnosing the human condition seems to be a specialty- and she's done that before, with her "This one warms to me" with Connor. Maybe she doesn't understand everything about human emotion and intellect, but she seems to see everything about the actual vessel.

But I'm also pretty convinced he willingly surrendered it (or thought he did) and that's all that matters to me, in a finale like Not Fade Away.

Absolutely.

But I can totally see there being a mystical way to remove himself for consideration.

I'm just saying, every time we've seen a prophecy, they've come true. I agree it could refer to Spike or some as-yet unsouled vampire. When people try to mess with prophecies, it never works.

I'm just saying, every time we've seen a prophecy, they've come true.

Without a doubt. And if Angel did sign himself out of it, it still very easily could, was my way of seeing it.

When people try to mess with prophecies, it never works.

That's where I stand, too. My first comment (in my spoiler summary, which, Jengod, if you want to use, is here) on the signing away of the Shanshu was:

What the Circle needs him to do is sign away, in blood, any chance that Angel will ever earn his humanity. (Which, editorially, is all very well and compelling, but if we've learned anything from this show, isn't it that that sort of thing never works? The Father Will Kill The Son, anyone? The son of the vampire with a soul will kill Sahjhan? But anyway.)

Cindy ... I am intrigued. Do tell.

It wasn't specifically from your post, your post just reminded me, but there were a few funnies and otherwise good lines cut from the script.

You know how Wes sort of wryly told Illyria that she was an inspirational person?

(Jess, I'm pretty much plagiarizing your journal, here, but...)

At the end of the first Wesley/Illyria scene, right after he gives his speech about Watchers being taught straight away to distinguish between truth and illusion, Illyria had a line that read, "You are not an inspirational person like me."

In the coffee shop scene between Connor and Angel, when Angel is telling Connor about Nina, and Connor makes the crack about full moon love and fur, the script had Angel replying, "There's no fur!" says Angel, "I would never...fur..." before Connor makes the crack about vampires not being jokey.

Also, when they're discussing Connor's resume, and Angel offers to help and Connor says "You girl" to Angel's mention of his own nice handwriting, the script had Angel telling him, "Hey, good penmanship used to be a sign of masculinity." Connor asks, "When, like, in the eighteenth century?" and Angel replies "The latter half."

It pretty much made it to the screen in tact from what Jessica reported in her excellent summaries, though.

I think it was not being unpleasant in her eyes.

I'm pretty sure it was not unpleasant to her eyes.

The artist formerly known as PersephoneMoon! I didn't realize you changed your name. I am pretty out of it. Thank you so very much. ~j

jengod, go here for a good, summary/description.

(Actually, I haven't read the one for this episode, but this person did the wildfeed episode descriptions for years, and was pretty clean in her telling of the story.)

It wasn't specifically from your post, your post just reminded me

Oh, well, then. I'm no longer intrigued. (Kidding)

I think it was "to", too, bt.

ETA: And I love the extended penmanship convo.

I'm pretty sure it was not unpleasant to her eyes.

I think you are right. As it was said, I read it as Illyria saying she enjoyed Gunn's physical appearance.