Rule of thumb? If you liked it, me. If you didn't, not my fault.

I want to take Tim's ego home and give it a blanket, a dish of kibble, and a fuzzy chew toy.

If people like Kat and Allyson and Ita bristled, then there was something which merited bristling.

I bristle a lot. So maybe I'm not such a good judge of merited bristling.

I believe that. I thought it would be interesting and instructive to let you in a little on the process of doing something like this. How production realities, narrative need and concerns about sensitivities all wrestle with each other.

I like the process. To me, your explanation gets a shrug and a "Huh." (and not my usual dismissive one, but a henh, interesting, I can see that sort of thing). In much the same way that your explanation of why the flamingoes gave advice that worked counter to all of the other advice and if Jaye had followed it would have meant a missed diagnosis of Dad.

In clearer terms, I'm always more willing to buy fallibility and a story constraint over a heated defense.

I still feel sort of bristley, but also, I'm eating chocolate pudding while sitting on an ice pack contemplating my 4 Month break, so feeling too happy to belabor my point.

Rule of thumb? If you liked it, me. If you didn't, not my fault.

So far so good, then.

I bristle a lot. So maybe I'm not such a good judge of merited bristling.

I never see you bristle without merit. Even without having seen it, I think there's merit to this discussion, just going on what I've read here (and mostly from you) and in the script.

How's the pudding?

So, mystical Indians outnumber mystical white people 2:1, yet white people on Wonderfalls outnumber Indians by how many?

Yes, but the main mystical person always in focus (or at least the mystically affected person) is a white woman. Isn't one of the problems with stereotypes that they make the stereotyped group somehow Other?

When watching the episode, did it look like all the Indians in the episode were sort of mystical (earnest question--I only read, and only, once)?

Basically, if white people's religion gets to be true, you're walking a dangerous path. You could end up being Touched by An Angel.

Which white people's religion? The one in which talking tchotchkes guide people, or Judaism, and the Christian denominations (which were referenced in Pink Flamingos, and Wound-Up Penguin)? I'm not being flip here. I'm not following this to such an extent that I'm not even sure I'm asking the right questions for clarification. The mysticism portrayed in the series (as far as I've seen and read--I've seen the first 4, and read the scripts I can find) seems to me to be apart from any religion. But I always figured there was a chance that when the coin bounced off the maiden statue, and hit Jaye in the head, that the maiden may have served as a trigger.

but the main mystical person always in focus (or at least the mystically affected person) is a white woman

She doesn't get mystical until episode 11. Supernatural, yes, but not mystical.

Which white people's religion? The one in which talking tchotchkes guide people, or Judaism, and the Christian denominations (which were referenced in Pink Flamingos, and Wound-Up Penguin)?

I may be behind on my White People Studies, but what religion has the talking tchotchkes?

Christianity was referenced, but not proved, if you see my distinction. Joan of Arcadia -- that's got proof. Touched By An Angel -- that too (although I typed Toughed By An Angel the first time -- much more fun, much more leather).

Up until Totem Mole, inanimate objects were animating for Jaye. Was she insane? Psychic? Touched by demons? Gods? That's a lot of spectrum of possibility, and I don't consider psychic mystical in the least.

In Totem Mole an outside established (although made up) religion affirms her experience. My reflexive statistical analysis is that that affirmation is more likely to come with experiential proof from a Mystical Native or a Magical Negro (probably practicing a little voudoun) than from a priest.

what religion has the talking tchotchkes?

We have the bleeding/crying statues.

Don't forget the freaky-ass big-eyed kid on those velvet paintings that makes houses burn down.

We have the bleeding/crying statues.

I'm now visualising a crucified puppy statue talking to Jaye.

Ta, ever so.

What %age of mystical white people do you see?

In Wonderfalls in particular, or in entertainment in general?

In entertainment in general, I do see a lot of mystical white people, and they're almost always Celtic. Which, as a decidedly non-mystical white-ass chick of Scottish descent, I will freely own pissed my shit off but good for a while.

And may explain why I had a more negative reaction to Doyle than most people.

Very good point, Plei. White folk can be pagans too.

But that's where the "reality" seems to lurk. Those mystical forces can interact directly in character's lives. Judeochristianity is so much more a matter of faith.

However, per capita, I think Indians have the league locked down. Black folk don't tend to have an explicit connection -- it's more of a primal connection.