Don't forget the freaky-ass big-eyed kid on those velvet paintings that makes houses burn down.

We have the bleeding/crying statues.

I'm now visualising a crucified puppy statue talking to Jaye.

Ta, ever so.

What %age of mystical white people do you see?

In Wonderfalls in particular, or in entertainment in general?

In entertainment in general, I do see a lot of mystical white people, and they're almost always Celtic. Which, as a decidedly non-mystical white-ass chick of Scottish descent, I will freely own pissed my shit off but good for a while.

And may explain why I had a more negative reaction to Doyle than most people.

Very good point, Plei. White folk can be pagans too.

But that's where the "reality" seems to lurk. Those mystical forces can interact directly in character's lives. Judeochristianity is so much more a matter of faith.

However, per capita, I think Indians have the league locked down. Black folk don't tend to have an explicit connection -- it's more of a primal connection.

I do see a lot of mystical white people, and they're almost always Celtic.

Do you think it's because we're always drunk?

Do you think it's because we're always drunk?

Possibly. Quite possibly.

I'm an Irish Italian Jew. I'm drunk while shooting out kneecaps and running all the banks.

I Am What's Wrong with America.

Sorry!

If I were an academic type person, it could make for a nice little research paper:

Substance Abuse & Mysticism: When I Say I See the Future, It Really Just Means I'm Making You Buy the Next Round.

Toughed By An Angel the first time -- much more fun, much more leather

Mmmm, Angel.

Taking a moment to deal with the fact that my TV is going to soon bereft of so much salty goodness. And, I'm done.

I may be behind on my White People Studies, but what religion has the talking tchotchkes?

I was offering an option within the 'verse, because I unsure whether you meant religion(s) of white people in reality, or within the Wonderfalls 'verse (not that the tchotchkes constitute a religion, but they constitute or represent a mystical force).

(I'm afraid I still might not be grasping your point, but I'm going to wait and reread when the kids are at school.)

but the main mystical person always in focus (or at least the mystically affected person) is a white woman

She doesn't get mystical until episode 11. Supernatural, yes, but not mystical.

Hence my parenthetical "mystically affected person" comment. Which episode is 11? How does she get mystical?

In entertainment in general, I do see a lot of mystical white people, and they're almost always Celtic. Which, as a decidedly non-mystical white-ass chick of Scottish descent, I will freely own pissed my shit off but good for a while.

MacSister.

However, per capita, I think Indians have the league locked down.

Yes, and Indians have the mystic role locked down in those genres which bother to portray them at all. The problem seems to me to be more that they're overwhelmingly portrayed as mystics. They are seldom--if ever--shown in a variety of roles, such that their roles show them in the full range of human experience. Stereotyping objectifies--it dehumanizes.

Specific to this episode of Wonderfalls though, does having an Indian mystic rise to the level of stereotyping? Should we take into account that the first tribal Seer was contacting Jaye (thus somehow placing them both within the sphere of influence of the same mystical forces, and so portraying this force as something that's neither exclusively belonging to either the Indians or the Anglos)? Is the stereotype subverted at all here, in that we also had an accountant, a merchant, and a lawyer?

I don't consider psychic mystical in the least.

What is the difference between a Psychic and a Seer?

Do you think it's because we're always drunk?

Great. Now I have to clean this Irish coffee off of my monitor.

Which episode is 11?

Totem Mole.

Is the stereotype subverted at all here, in that we also had an accountant, a merchant, and a lawyer?

Since the lawyer's the religious person they were seeking and the accountant wants to be/is resisting being religious, and the merchant is all about finding a religious person, no, NSM.

I'm diving for some term clarification -- what's happening with the Satsuma Indians is a religious thing. What's happening with Jaye is undefined -- by the end of Totem Mole, by association, it is at least recognised by a religion, and deemed positive.

Cindy, Indians are in the episode to have their religion manifested. That's the be all and end all of that. Putting in couple rocket scientists wouldn't really balance that out. The treatment of it, however, can, might have, but fell short in my eyes.