So how do we resolve this? I'm at a loss.

Voting works pretty well. At least whenever we've been at loggerheads in discussion, the votes usually clarify things.

That noted, this discussion is useful to me because it does make clear that there are people who miss TV in Natter, whereas I never talked TV in Natter.

It seems like there's some sentiment to let the experimental threads run out, and then consider voting on new threads - bucket or single show - before the fall seasons start. I do think the non-fiction thread has provided the most cross-pollination service.

yes. I can think of several times when people have been pointed towards the experimental threads when they bring up TV shows, and I am pretty sure this happened with ita and GA once even after she had expressly said "those don't work for me".

Okay. I guess I just didn't see those as "shooing". Someone who was in the conversation said hey, we have a thread for this! And people said "not for me, thanks" and... just different interpretations, I guess. And a couple of people chiming in on the same topic can make you feel dogpiled, no matter what the topic, of course.

Now, if the question is whether discussion is harder to sustain in Natter now than previously - I'd buy that. I'm not sure there's any way around that via whitefont rules, for Natter, anyway. What whitefont rules would make those of us who are staying out of the threads for spoilage reasons happier?

If the threads are going to be closed down after the end of the experiment, then I'm proposing we keep them open. If someone has a counter-proposal for a specific show thread or a variant, I think it's time to propose.

If the threads are going to be kept open while we decide what we're going to do, I'm happy with that.

What whitefont rules would make those of us who are staying out of the threads for spoilage reasons happier?

None that I can think of. Back when I had more online time I did my TV talk back at WX, because it was one thread per show, pretty much. Easy as pie, even though you couldn't subscribe individually. That's my optimum setup, I just don't think we have the tech or perhaps even the volume to sustain it.

Anything else is unwieldy, as far as I can tell.

I'd certainly propose (or second, or whatever) keeping Non-Fiction open. There's multiple new reality shows starting up by the end of May, and I like the energy in the thread. I think it should keep going.

I'm proposing we keep them open.

If the proposal stated they'd be closed, there's a moratorium, isn't there, on when you can modify it?

If the threads are going to be closed down after the end of the experiment, then I'm proposing we keep them open. If someone has a counter-proposal for a specific show thread or a variant, I think it's time to propose.

Please don't do that. The whole point of the proposal was that it was temporary. If you like them as is, when the experiment is done (June 1) you can propose we open regular (non-experimental threads).

As much as I'm having a good time with the experiment, I think that flies in the face of the purpose. I'm not even sure it's something we should allow, because of our moratorium rules. But mostly, it just feels wrong.

If you like them as is, when the experiment is done (June 1) you can propose we open regular (non-experimental threads).

OK, I formally propose regular, non-experimental threads, possibly with the same divisions, possibly with changed white font rules, with the possibility of proposing break-out threads for shows that are overwhelming the discussions. Said threads to appear when the experimental threads expire.

No, please. After. Propose whatever after June 1.

I'm fine with not keeping them open, so long as we're not moratorium-precluded from proposing non-experimental versions of some of these threads, particularly a reality show thread of some kind. I've grown rather fond of that thread.