And I don't want people like Liese to be unhappy.

Aww, Dana. Don't be distressed! I'm not unhappy, really, I'm not. (Except at my lunchtime yogurt incident, that's upsetting, it is.)

I'm maybe a little eyerolly at myself. But mostly I just want the boards to be a healthy, functional place for us to be able to get together. I'm glad we're still together after we lost our primary bond years ago. Of course we want to talk about stuff, and heck, let's find the best way to do that.

I miss when we felt like we consensed on everything and everybody left happy. The inherent problem with a democracy is that there's always a losing side. Hopefully we'll be able to work it through to where we can be considerate of the needs and work it out.

Odds are we're not going to end up with just bucket threads or just show threads. Odds are there will be a combination, and hopefully it'll be enough to make most of the people mostly happy.

I really can't see one huge general drama thread working. That just becomes tv natter and I'd rather just keep it in natter at that point.

I can't, either -- not in the long run. What I was proposing was step one, to see what shows generate good discussion. Once we had that data, would could go from there to see what shows deserved their own threads/if any shows would work better in a bucket with other shows/if we should make no change.

It's either a really horrible idea, or I'm articulating it horribly, or nobody is getting the distinction I'm making.

Okay then I propose a tiny bucket thread for Numbers and Bones.

I would also propose a thread for BSG but that will wait until it is airing again.

Jess, in fairness most of the people who've given that opinion have actually listed shows they'd like to see threads of.

Not until a couple of posts ago - and thanks for chiming in with that ND. I would be behind BSG but need to be convinced on the other.

nobody is getting the distinction I'm making.

I get it, a lot, but I think I'm posting in freaking whitefont this week.

Did Heros spin off (as a thread) from Boxed Set? If so, I like that as a model, and I think it's what Cindy is talking about promoting in the future.

In the meantime, I'd be more than happy to see someone with an actual proposal on the table, because it's easier to go yay or nay on something specific than a general theory.

And I don't think we need to pick either/or single shows or buckets -- I mean, we have both now, and we're not dead yet, right?

It's either a really horrible idea, or I'm articulating it horribly, or nobody is getting the distinction I'm making.

I get it, too. Pilot projects sometimes use more of a scattershot approach before honing their scope for the permanent phase.

it's easier to go yay or nay on something specific than a general theory

I agree with this. Perhaps we could start suggesting various ideas of threads and see what happens with the consensus?

Was there ever an answer to the technical question about thread proliferation? I've been wondering about that.

What I was proposing was step one, to see what shows generate good discussion. Once we had that data, would could go from there to see what shows deserved their own threads/if any shows would work better in a bucket with other shows/if we should make no change.

If that's a proposal, I'll second.

I can't, either -- not in the long run. What I was proposing was step one, to see what shows generate good discussion. Once we had that data, would could go from there to see what shows deserved their own threads/if any shows would work better in a bucket with other shows/if we should make no change.

Cindy, I do see what you're saying. The problem that I have with a general drama thread is that I don't see it serving the needs of the community very well, overall or as a determining point for future threads. Largely, because I think we will spend the rest of April figuring out how to use it, and then only a handful of shows might get higher posting volumes than others; and then, maybe we'll create single show threads, or a couple of bucket threads based on whatever discussion takes place there. But I don't see it as a good determination of what we want to talk about because I think it's limiting in its grandness. I really do think we need to tread down the more difficult road of the golilocks thread. I think it will result in threads better suited to us overall than whatever data we receive from a general drama thread--because I think drama is way too broad.

Did Heros spin off (as a thread) from Boxed Set? If so, I like that as a model, and I think it's what Cindy is talking about promoting in the future.

It did. But the difference I see there is that Boxed Set has been around for a long while and has already established itself as a place where we can determine, roughly, what shows would work on their own by post count. Whereas a drama thread is too broad, with too many shows that could possibly go in there, and with not enough focus to actually give us good data.