I agree with Vortex. There's spoiler-phobia and then there's self-censorship. Maybe we should have a rule of thumb to identify the show you're about to talk about at the beginning of your post, sort of like all the posts that start with "BSG:" or "SPN:" in Boxed Set.

I'd rather have smaller bucket threads too, than a big general thread. I have the sense that we won't quite know what to use it for, it being so broad; hence the suggestions I outlined above.

Despite connie's enthusiasm I don't have a sense that procedurals would get a lot of discussion. Most of them aren't arc-y shows, are they?

Arcs don't make the discussion, bebe. Bones, for example, is very much a MOTW show. But the characters are *fantastic* and take the forefront of almost any episode--so I would be enthused about discussing what Boone and Brennan said to each other that week, por ejemplo. And mind, L&O was just one that I know we watch occasionally. I don't forsee a lot of talking about it. But I do foresee shows like NCIS, Without a Trace, Bones, Criminal Minds, etc all getting discussed in there. And having a procedurals thread means we can discuss *past* episodes of stuff like Homicide and L&O in there as well, which is attractive to me.

I'm not sure an FX original drama thread would sustain much more posting than Premium, to be honest, which is why I'd like it in with Premium.

Maybe we should have a rule of thumb to identify the show you're about to talk about at the beginning of your post, sort of like all the posts that start with "BSG:" or "SPN:" in Boxed Set.

I think that's absolutely what would happen naturally. Boxed Set is the perfect example--you end up being able to thread discussion based on that header.

I'm not sure an FX original drama thread would sustain much more posting than Premium, to be honest, which is why I'd like it in with Premium.

I think that's true, too. I'm not watching the FX shows I think I'd like, and I'd sure like to read how others are taking them, but I think there's likely to be only a few watchers for each show at this point.

I say smaller NAFDA (no whitefont) FX thread. Or something along those lines.

Okay, I know we were never going to NOT discuss TV. I'm not actually an idiot, though some people may disagree with that. However, I'm trying to point out that if we only go for one or the other -- bucket or single show -- we're disenfranchising some chunk of the board. Even if we do it in our faux democratic way.

If we stop talking about TV entirely, we're at least disenfranchising everybody equally. However, if we try some combination of both (which is really what I think we should do), we're at least trying to acommodate as many members as possible.

Frankly, with the strong stances against splintering, general TV threads, and thread proliferation, those people will be as unhappy as any other group, if we create any new TV threads at all, regardless of how broad or narrow, so what are we to do?

Again, at least stopping TV talk completely (yeah, again, I know it's not going to happen, I'm just making a point) has the benefit of not leaving one group of buffistas pleased and one group unhappy.

Anyway, I'll drop that point after this post. It only makes people think I'm stupid.

I say smaller NAFDA (no whitefont) FX thread.

If we're talking about just a test thread, one that would be up for a month to see how much traffic it generates, I think an FX thread is too narrow.

My MOTHER was an FX thread!

Your mother is TOO NARROW!!!

There, I said it.

I'd take all shows in whitefont in Natter over that. (Meaning the no TV talk at all. And can you see us enforcing that?)

If we're thinking about doing an F/X thread, I'd rather just scoot them into premium. For a trial balloon thread, I don't think the channel is a useful distinguisher - if for no other reason than those really aren't very broadly watched shows.

I'd say general drama, no whitefont. And perhaps a polite request that during the time a show is airing and slightly thereafter, to be conscious of spoilage for other shows. i.e., while Bones is on, perhaps try to restrain yourself from running aroung shouting OMG CUDDY KILLED HOUSE. Or maybe informal whitefont on really crazy HSQs. So, sort of caveat lector, but try to be nice.

Your mother is TOO NARROW!!!

You've obviously never met my mother....

t /Groucho