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Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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DavidS - Apr 10, 2007 9:09:32 am PDT #8964 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think when you have a smaller number of shows in the bucket you have less of a need for whitefont. So, for me, it's an argument for smaller buckets instead of a general drama thread. It's the Goldilocks "just right" vibe.

Despite connie's enthusiasm I don't have a sense that procedurals would get a lot of discussion. Most of them aren't arc-y shows, are they?

I'd get a better experimental sense on doing a small bucket thread with no whitefont. I'd lean towards an FX thread then over a general drama thread.

Maybe a quick straw poll on that? FX or general?


Connie Neil - Apr 10, 2007 9:09:53 am PDT #8965 of 10001
brillig

As a test, then, OK


Vortex - Apr 10, 2007 9:10:07 am PDT #8966 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think that our general whitefont rules should apply -- after the show airs on the east coast, use black font. Spoilers in spoiler thread.


esse - Apr 10, 2007 9:10:53 am PDT #8967 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I feel, though, that the entire thread will just be thousands and thousands of posts of nothing but whitefont. Which, while amusing conceptually, doesn't really do anything for me as someone who wants to post. I mean, how are you going to restrain the whitefont? What is going to be the amount of time elapsed before blackfont is allowed? The day after it aired? A week after it aired? It's one thing to be aware of the three-hour time difference, but who really goes into a thread knowing that something has aired on the east coast, knowing they will get spoiled for it airing on the west coast? I think waiting the three hours before entry is a common sense thing to do, especially when you know that x show is going to be the topic of discussion. It's different in Natter, where you're talking about thirty other things and you don't want to spoil people. In a show about the television that's airing, though, I think it's ridiculous.


Connie Neil - Apr 10, 2007 9:12:34 am PDT #8968 of 10001
brillig

Most of them aren't arc-y shows, are they?

House's arcs: Chase-and-Cameron, Cuddy's multi-season efforts to get pregnant, what-the-hell-is-House-up-to . . .

Bones' arcs: Booth-and-Bones--will they or won't they?, Brennan's Dad, what the hell happened to Brennan's Mom, Hodgins and Angela, . . .


Hayden - Apr 10, 2007 9:12:59 am PDT #8969 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I agree with Vortex. There's spoiler-phobia and then there's self-censorship. Maybe we should have a rule of thumb to identify the show you're about to talk about at the beginning of your post, sort of like all the posts that start with "BSG:" or "SPN:" in Boxed Set.


esse - Apr 10, 2007 9:14:58 am PDT #8970 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I'd rather have smaller bucket threads too, than a big general thread. I have the sense that we won't quite know what to use it for, it being so broad; hence the suggestions I outlined above.

Despite connie's enthusiasm I don't have a sense that procedurals would get a lot of discussion. Most of them aren't arc-y shows, are they?

Arcs don't make the discussion, bebe. Bones, for example, is very much a MOTW show. But the characters are *fantastic* and take the forefront of almost any episode--so I would be enthused about discussing what Boone and Brennan said to each other that week, por ejemplo. And mind, L&O was just one that I know we watch occasionally. I don't forsee a lot of talking about it. But I do foresee shows like NCIS, Without a Trace, Bones, Criminal Minds, etc all getting discussed in there. And having a procedurals thread means we can discuss *past* episodes of stuff like Homicide and L&O in there as well, which is attractive to me.

I'm not sure an FX original drama thread would sustain much more posting than Premium, to be honest, which is why I'd like it in with Premium.


esse - Apr 10, 2007 9:16:30 am PDT #8971 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Maybe we should have a rule of thumb to identify the show you're about to talk about at the beginning of your post, sort of like all the posts that start with "BSG:" or "SPN:" in Boxed Set.

I think that's absolutely what would happen naturally. Boxed Set is the perfect example--you end up being able to thread discussion based on that header.


Hayden - Apr 10, 2007 9:17:02 am PDT #8972 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I'm not sure an FX original drama thread would sustain much more posting than Premium, to be honest, which is why I'd like it in with Premium.

I think that's true, too. I'm not watching the FX shows I think I'd like, and I'd sure like to read how others are taking them, but I think there's likely to be only a few watchers for each show at this point.


Sean K - Apr 10, 2007 9:19:35 am PDT #8973 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I say smaller NAFDA (no whitefont) FX thread. Or something along those lines.

Okay, I know we were never going to NOT discuss TV. I'm not actually an idiot, though some people may disagree with that. However, I'm trying to point out that if we only go for one or the other -- bucket or single show -- we're disenfranchising some chunk of the board. Even if we do it in our faux democratic way.

If we stop talking about TV entirely, we're at least disenfranchising everybody equally. However, if we try some combination of both (which is really what I think we should do), we're at least trying to acommodate as many members as possible.

Frankly, with the strong stances against splintering, general TV threads, and thread proliferation, those people will be as unhappy as any other group, if we create any new TV threads at all, regardless of how broad or narrow, so what are we to do?

Again, at least stopping TV talk completely (yeah, again, I know it's not going to happen, I'm just making a point) has the benefit of not leaving one group of buffistas pleased and one group unhappy.

Anyway, I'll drop that point after this post. It only makes people think I'm stupid.