I think subcommunities become factions when you aren't a part of the one you are talking about.

Cause, honestly, we have subcommunities, that have been codified and protected when other threads were consolidated that have people in them that I see oh-so-rarely. And I personally think it's great for them to have a space and yeah, more power to them.

So I'm not worried about it.

I love Liese's idea so much right now about just letting the board breathe for a bit.

I'm kinda bummed out that it hasn't even been a week and WHAM! we feel the need to discuss it in a post ME-TV world.

What Allyson said (except for the nicotine stuff).

Has the board ever gone through attrition phases? I think that we've reached a size where some waxing and waning is inevitable. But I'll bet we have fresh influxes with the Wonderfalls DVD release, the Big Damn Movie, Animated Buffy (if it really is going forward) and Harsh Mistress Moon. And I would bet that before all those things are over with we'll have found more things to fixate on and analyze and snark about.

So.... yeah, I'm perfectly happy to breathe and let things happen organically.

I'm good with the breathing. Will try to reign in paranoid sky is falling tendencies until chunks are coming towards my head.

I love Liese's idea so much right now about just letting the board breathe for a bit.

I've come around to this, too, with one minor exception that shouldn't be controversial (closing the Previously thread).

I've come around to this, too, with one minor exception that shouldn't be controversial (closing the Previously thread).

This does only occur once S5 finishes airing overseas, right? Cause the current Angel thread should remain NAFDA until that designation is no longer necessary. Just making sure.

This does only occur once S5 finishes airing overseas, right?

Sorry, I should have made that clear -- yes, that's correct.

What was your chunk approach, Cindy? It seemed to already have assumptions in it, but I could be remembering it all wrong. And obviously we are not sharing axioms at the moment.

I just wanted to see if we needed to fill the TV gap, or not (with "not" being just as viable option as filling it). It looked (when Lightbulb was open for Betsy's proposal) as if people were going to propose either a general TV thread, or a few sort of general TV threads, separated into categories.

Personally, I think that it's a mistake to do that right now, mostly because the time zones will cause spoiler problems (that could probably be addressed, but would take a complicated work-around). Another reason I think that's a mistake is that I think part of what makes us us, is that the TV that historically has caused us to lose objectivity, spend too many hours analyzing, and post passionately, is good, innovative, well-crafted TV, with major arcs and lots of layers.

I thought that instead of living through people proposing and getting shot down ad nauseam, we should have a conversation about what kinds of shows we watch--shows which make us want to post about them (posts with substance, that is--above and beyond the little tv comments we make in Natter). That's all. Since Liese has sounded the trumpet of calm, I'm no longer as concerned that we will all go proposal happy.

I have no "I'd like a thread for this show" list, myself. I just didn't want us going all proposal-crazy, with no clear idea of what sort of shows we can bullshit-agree fit us, as a community. My assumptions were that either we'd find we didn't need anything right now, or that someone would come up with an idea we would think was worth a shot. I didn't think we needed to address the who-are-we question writ large, because I think we already know that, and the convo always ends with arguments of people saying the same thing, in different ways (imo). Our only major, recent change is that now we have no new episodes of shows that were part of our original bond. So the TV chunk-of-us, is all I wanted to look at.

Your assumption that what shows we watch or would post about is relevant is the one I don't share.

I think there's a discussion that'd need to happen before that. And once that discussion has happened, you're more than halfway to proposal-land anyway.

Your assumption that what shows we watch or would post about is relevant is the one I don't share.

Does your relevant = new thread? Mine does not. I'm not assuming our findings will prove relevant in any way, except let us figure out if our TV gap is big, or little. I figured the most likely outcome was us deciding we didn't need/want any new thread right now.

I think there's a discussion that'd need to happen before that.

What would it be?

eta...

Again, I don't think the convo is so necessary, now. Whatever this was, also seemed to dampen the (what felt like to me) ardor for a new, general thread.

Does your relevant = new thread? Mine does not.

Mine neither.

Why are we discussing what TV shows we'd post about? Why not what arts and crafts? Martial arts? Fashion? Makeup?

There seems to be an underlying assumption that what TV shows we'd post about matters in some way.