Well, then, this is a day I'll feel good to be me.

Mal ,'Trash'


Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


§ ita § - Apr 08, 2007 11:17:37 am PDT #8853 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oops.


Kevin - Apr 08, 2007 11:19:31 am PDT #8854 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

The Inside eps that did air in the US - weren't they discussed inthread in blackfont?

Did they? I'm pretty sure it didn't all air, ita -- about 7 unaired episodes, which aired in the UK, which lead to online downloading.

Edit: I'm a dumbass who can't read.


Jessica - Apr 08, 2007 11:25:54 am PDT #8855 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Thread proliferation splinters the community - it's the main reason I tend to support "bucket" type threads like Boxed Set and Minearverse and oppose single-show threads (even for shows I watch).

Which is also why I'm in favor of broadening Premium, even if the details of how we do it will be tricky to hash out. Right now there are only 5 or 6 regular posters in there.


Pix - Apr 08, 2007 11:31:49 am PDT #8856 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Personally, I would much prefer a bunch of individual show threads that are lower volume under the TV heading to any type of mixed show threads. I can't use Boxed Set since I want to buy the Eureka and Heroes DVDs and watch them all eventually and am spoilerphobic. I wish I could talk about BSG with everyone, but I can't without that spoiling myself. So yeah, you get cross-pollination with a thread with multiple shows, but you also lose anyone like me who can't keep up with every show in the thread. If it were whitefonted it wouldn't matter, but I know that's a PITA for watch 'n posts, which is a beloved Buffista tradition.

I haven't said anything to this point since I don't post in Boxed Set or Premium for precisely these reasons, but since we're now talking in general, I thought I'd pipe up.


megan walker - Apr 08, 2007 11:36:50 am PDT #8857 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Kristin is me. Maybe it's a Connecticut thing.


§ ita § - Apr 08, 2007 11:47:44 am PDT #8858 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Single-show threads lose me too. Perversely, the reason I ever show up in VM or Lost is because I don't really care. Haven't been in Heroes.


aurelia - Apr 08, 2007 11:55:21 am PDT #8859 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Even though I almost never watch a show as it airs (I think I'm two weeks behind on everything at the moment) I'm more interested in moving toward more "bucket" threads than individual shows. I agree with Jessica that these are better for the community.


le nubian - Apr 08, 2007 12:44:25 pm PDT #8860 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Okay y'all thanks for the responses. So here are my additional questions: isn't the community already splintered? If there is a group (perhaps sizeable) who can't follow the current bucket threads as they are currently configured, but want to talk about various shows, then their participation is limited. I definitely fall into this group. I only just recently started following Boxed Set again (maybe in the last month or two) because I realized (remembered!) that's where BSG was discussed and not Natter. I just cannot keep up with Natter at all and I lose discussions of tv shows in there.

Maybe exclusivity is important - and that people would prefer to have threads of folks who CAN follow multiple shows. I say this without irritation or accusation, just trying to get a sense of what people's aims are.

So I wonder now if maybe 2 additional threads should be added (perhaps independent of the current proposal being discussed): two threads for a narrow group/genre specific shows.


brenda m - Apr 08, 2007 1:13:38 pm PDT #8861 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Even though I almost never watch a show as it airs (I think I'm two weeks behind on everything at the moment) I'm more interested in moving toward more "bucket" threads than individual shows. I agree with Jessica that these are better for the community.

Which is also why I'm in favor of broadening Premium, even if the details of how we do it will be tricky to hash out. Right now there are only 5 or 6 regular posters in there.

Agreed. And I didn't realize that Premium was so limited. I think David was on to something with his "decendants of Homicide" post and I'd really like to hash that out some more.

As far as not keeping up so as not to get spoiled - eh. I don't know. I subscribe and unsubscribe from Boxed Set as I keep up/get behind with the various shows. It works well enough. If you go into the thread around the air time of the show you are watching, that's generally what you'll find being discussed.

So no, if I'm behind on BSG I don't go in the thread on Sunday evenings. A certain amount of consideration for the Tivo/time zone/continent delayed is a good thing. But I don't find it an especially compelling argumet nt against building a thread that might foster better discussion than Natter while still drawing a bigger audience and sparking the cross-pollination and more wide-ranging conversation than a narrowly construed thread would.


Kate P. - Apr 08, 2007 3:19:17 pm PDT #8862 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I really like the bucket threads, for the reasons that Jessica and others have stated -- it fosters more of a sense of community and helps spread the fannish love of certain shows to people who haven't given them a chance yet. I'm also in favor of the occasional single-show thread for a show with a demonstrably large following and a large volume of discussion, but I think for the shows that generate less discussion, having a few bucket threads would work really well for me.

bon bon, your proposal was for the drama/comedy/reality threads, right? I'd be in favor of something like that, though with slightly more narrowly-defined genres -- more like the "gritty anti-hero dramas with cussing and fucking and Shakespearian overtones" definition that we're slowly cobbling together -- that would still be clear enough for non-readers of that particular thread to still have a good idea of which shows get discussed there. The great difficulty there, of course, is coming up with those clear & useful definitions (I think listing show titles in the slugs or thread headers would definitely help) -- that's going to take both creativity and consensing.