SA and the others in favor of this expansion have listed the show titles they'd like included

Different lists, though. At least as far as I can tell. SA wants all FX hour long serial dramas. Amych seems to want to include by type instead, ignoring the originating channel.

serial:

do not think at all that it is obvious what shows should be discussed in there

What shows are fuzzy for them? I can imagine, say, Life On Mars, but past that I'm not sure.

What shows are fuzzy for them? I can imagine, say, Life On Mars, but past that I'm not sure.

(Disclosure: I am one of the people referenced in that sentence, but I'm not the only one)

What shows to be discussed in Boxed Set are fuzzy for me? All of them. Frankly I have no idea what shows are discussed in there.

It was originally a merge of Due South, Smallville and Farscape (as everyone here knows). Once it was created, for the moderate time I posted in that thread (before giving up because Farscape was pretty much never discussed there anymore), those were not even close to the only three shows talked about in that thread. My understanding is that this trend has only continued. Whatever shows arte mentioned in the header, I always get the impression (particularly in here, whenever it's brought up in new thread creation discussion) that many shows that are NOT listed in the header.

I mean, I'm not even close to the first person to bring this fact up, just within the last few days. Pretty much every time Boxed Set is brought into the discussion in B'Craxxy, it's as an example of the opposite of bright thread lines.

Also, I'm pretty sure Battlestar Galactica is supposed to be discussed in Boxed Set, but I hate Boxed Set and never want to go in there, because of the volume of other shows discussed that I have absolutely no interest in at all (Stargate and Stargate: Atlantis), and because of whitefont issues.

Which sucks for me, because I know there are many Buffistas who like and watch the show, and I want to talk about it with Buffistas, but that option is pretty much closed to me.

There are reams and reams of BSG discussion in Boxed Set. Far more than any posts discussing the Stargates, since they've been on hiatus.

Did I miss how we were going to enact this lower standard of proof for establishing/deleting threads? If it doesn't come along with some kind of procedure, I can't imagine us limiting discussion by consensus.

Boxed Set's slug:

Discussions of sci-fi/fantasy shows we watch. Smallville, Due South, Farscape, Stargate, BSG, etc. May contain HoYay.

Description:

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Is it the apparent conflict between SFF and genre? I think SFF is clear and covers every show discussed. I'm slow, and only just learning that genre, even when taken as a specific term, means things other than SFF to people. And to that end, I'm perfectly open to a description revamp. I just had no idea.

pretty sure Battlestar Galactica is supposed to be discussed in Boxed Set

Pretty sure? What, from the slug, makes you less than actually sure?

Not wanting to go in because of whitefont issues and shows you're not interested in isn't about bright lines, and would seem to be an argument for not expanding threads, if anything.

how we were going to enact this lower standard of proof for establishing/deleting threads

I don't think you missed anything. I'm wondering myself.

Did I miss how we were going to enact this lower standard of proof for establishing/deleting threads?

I don't think we've gotten that far. It's David's idea, not mine. I just think his idea has the most potential to solve the problem of any suggestions made so far.

And I am in no way in disagreement with or opposed to your need for a clearly defined procedure.

pretty sure Battlestar Galactica is supposed to be discussed in Boxed Set

Pretty sure? What, from the slug, makes you less than actually sure?

Um, I already said I fled the thread long ago, so I haven't looked at the header or description in forever. Others upthread here have already complained about the lack of accurate discriptiveness in the thread header and description for Boxed Set. I was merely taking them at their word. I guess I should have done more research, but I'm not sure that invalidates my points.

Also, I guess I'm not sure what your position is either, ita, aside from a need for bright lines.

I'm still mildly in favor of my own idea, but it doesn't look like it appeals to too many people. I am not sure there's a happy medium between a very exclusive thread and too much whitefont.