Well, it's just good to know that when the chips are down and things look grim you'll feed off the girl who loves you to save your own ass!

Xander ,'Chosen'


Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?  

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Sophia Brooks - Jan 02, 2007 8:19:41 am PST #7606 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I'm with you, vw. I have been trying to think of a soothing, logical middle of the road post this morning, and I have come up with nothing. The long and short of it is that I am afraid there is no way to satisfy the desire of some to have closure with the desire of others to think the best of people. And as those aren't really opposing desires, I think it is hard to talk people who are of one way of thinking into the other way.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 02, 2007 8:19:55 am PST #7607 of 10001
What is even happening?

Whatever it is, just say it, vw.


vw bug - Jan 02, 2007 8:20:56 am PST #7608 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

Oh, no. That *was* my concern, Cindy.


Beverly - Jan 02, 2007 8:21:25 am PST #7609 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

vw honey, I don't think so. We've been through those wars before, and I think we know where the land mines are this time. We've also been exceptionally polite to each other, backed off and let the other person say their piece, and agreed to disagree. I think it's going to be fine, as long as we remember to play nice.


Scrappy - Jan 02, 2007 8:23:52 am PST #7610 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I agree with Beverly. Disagreement is not the end of a relationship. In this case, I see people stating their case while really listening to each other and giving each other room. It's an admirable thing.


Beverly - Jan 02, 2007 8:24:19 am PST #7611 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I will say that the more live and let live types among us are not going to be able to talk the need-resolution types into dropping this. But as long as things are handled without ferocity and a need to punish, merely a fact-finding mission, I think most of the accepting folks can live with that. I can, anyway. I hope Trudy and anybody else who'd rather we not uncover anything unpleasant will be able to accept it, too.


vw bug - Jan 02, 2007 8:25:47 am PST #7612 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

Ok.

Just to clarify, I wasn't feeling all kerfuffly and stuff. I'm just scared. People that I care about are on both sides of this fence, and I don't want the community to lose any of them.

That's all. So, thank you for calming that.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 02, 2007 8:26:28 am PST #7613 of 10001
What is even happening?

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Sophia Brooks - Jan 02, 2007 8:28:13 am PST #7614 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I will say that the more live and let live types among us are not going to be able to talk the need-resolution types into dropping this. But as long as things are handled without ferocity and a need to punish, merely a fact-finding mission, I think most of the accepting folks can live with that. I can, anyway. I hope Trudy and anybody else who'd rather we not uncover anything unpleasant will be able to accept it, too.

I am glad to hear you say that Beverly. My experience with the preferential voting discussion was life-altering-- or at least board altering for me, so conflict-avoidant me can blow things out of proportion.


Laura - Jan 02, 2007 8:28:32 am PST #7615 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I think we are all ok here, vw. We may have a variety of opinion on this, but I don't see anyone suggesting another's feelings are wrong.