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Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Kat - May 24, 2004 4:17:34 pm PDT #749 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Both Consuela and Liese said things that resonate with me. We need a conversation about where we are headed or what we want, and I love what Liese said about what we already are. Cause it kinda forestalls my tendency to naval gaze.

I have no problem with the board being primarily social in nature as my experience with it this year has been exactly that.

I didn't mean for my curiosity about Boxed Set to be a referendum. I was just being curious.

I hate the idea of a "genre" TV thread and a "teen soap" thread and it might be because the naming of it in that manner really rubs me wrong. Because the use of genre like that pushes big giant buttons on me. Obviously my issue.

There was something else, but I forget.


Laura - May 24, 2004 4:20:32 pm PDT #750 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I still don't understand the problem with seeing what people want before we decide whether it's even worth proposing, never mind actually proposing.

I don't see why we need a formal proposal to discuss the many possible options. Me thinks lightbulbs should be open for discussing the options.


§ ita § - May 24, 2004 4:20:46 pm PDT #751 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What those three said.

There are people here who don't discuss TV period. There are people here who get their TV discussion fix in fora dedicated to that, that provide an infrastructure I don't think we'd even attempt.

Pants lengths? Cutlery traditions? Get more traffic than The OC, love it as I do. We'll be just fine without branching into an insanity-making field of dictating complex spoiler rules and genre definitions.


Kat - May 24, 2004 4:24:51 pm PDT #752 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

AY! I remembered.

I'm finding general interest threads as generally uninteresting to me. So I wouldn't get much use out of one.

Pants lengths? Cutlery traditions? Get more traffic than The OC, love it as I do.

Bahahaha... it's sad. But oh so true.


Frankenbuddha - May 24, 2004 4:25:49 pm PDT #753 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Would it be out of line to propose a "Where do we go from here?" thread, so that B'acy is left for things bureaucratic, but we don't have to start proposing new threads willy nilly? Also, so the discussion won't get lost in a sea of natter?

Just a thought.


Kat - May 24, 2004 4:29:07 pm PDT #754 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

But where we go from here is bureaucratic.

Plus another thread in which I'll be tempted to navel gaze.

shudder.

No thank you.


Frankenbuddha - May 24, 2004 4:36:54 pm PDT #755 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

But where we go from here is bureaucratic.

There just seemed to be objections from using this thread for this discussion. Ones I don't share, btw. I think this is EXACTLY where this has to take place. But I thought I'd ask, in case someone thought it was a good idea.

IOW, not proposing anything.


§ ita § - May 24, 2004 4:40:04 pm PDT #756 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There just seemed to be objections from using this thread for this discussion

I think I was most of the objecting voice, and I wasn't objecting to this -- I was objecting to using this thread as a place to meta-discuss TV.


Frankenbuddha - May 24, 2004 4:54:04 pm PDT #757 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I was objecting to using this thread as a place to meta-discuss TV.

Ah, gotchya, and, yeah, that's valid objection. Although there may end up being some meta-discuss in the "who are we now".


Michele T. - May 24, 2004 5:05:52 pm PDT #758 of 10001
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

I'm sincerely tempted to NOT try to steer where we go next, for many of the reasons stated above. The community will grow and change with time. We can't know in advance if Joss's run on the X-Men will lead to an efflorescence of Marvel-verse love on the boards, or Tim's next show will be wildly reviled, or what. We can still talk about Angel and Buffy in repeats -- God knows, we get traffic still, and the other threads will happen as they happen.

I'm wary of adding other TV show specific threads in no small part because the community hasn't formed around a consensus around those shows. The Smallville discussion, for example, was once positive. Now, as someone upthread noted, it's overwhelmingly negative, to the point where when I enjoy an episode, b.org is the LAST place I would go to post about it.

Even during Buffy S6, when there was a vocal group of people posting every week to say how much they hated the show now, there was a core of people who enjoyed the show, because that was what brought everyone here. SpyDaddy and Jack Bauer and Seth are not what brought people here, and if there's a small vocal group of people who hate S2 of The O.C., they may be enough of a plurality of the people discussing The O.C. to grind discussion of that show to a halt too. I'd rather not set up a place that encourages O.C.-hating if that happens -- let the discussion just die quietly.

People right now are finding each other to talk about The O.C. when they want to, and it's working for them, as far as I can tell. I pretty much have kept to Spoilers, Music, and Other Media for months now, and that's working for me. The Buffyverse continues to exist, even if there's no new show-creation happening; there were Trek fans for decades between shows being happily Trekkie, too. Let's see how things go over the next couple of months, and see what we need when we get there.