There just seemed to be objections from using this thread for this discussion

I think I was most of the objecting voice, and I wasn't objecting to this -- I was objecting to using this thread as a place to meta-discuss TV.

I was objecting to using this thread as a place to meta-discuss TV.

Ah, gotchya, and, yeah, that's valid objection. Although there may end up being some meta-discuss in the "who are we now".

I'm sincerely tempted to NOT try to steer where we go next, for many of the reasons stated above. The community will grow and change with time. We can't know in advance if Joss's run on the X-Men will lead to an efflorescence of Marvel-verse love on the boards, or Tim's next show will be wildly reviled, or what. We can still talk about Angel and Buffy in repeats -- God knows, we get traffic still, and the other threads will happen as they happen.

I'm wary of adding other TV show specific threads in no small part because the community hasn't formed around a consensus around those shows. The Smallville discussion, for example, was once positive. Now, as someone upthread noted, it's overwhelmingly negative, to the point where when I enjoy an episode, b.org is the LAST place I would go to post about it.

Even during Buffy S6, when there was a vocal group of people posting every week to say how much they hated the show now, there was a core of people who enjoyed the show, because that was what brought everyone here. SpyDaddy and Jack Bauer and Seth are not what brought people here, and if there's a small vocal group of people who hate S2 of The O.C., they may be enough of a plurality of the people discussing The O.C. to grind discussion of that show to a halt too. I'd rather not set up a place that encourages O.C.-hating if that happens -- let the discussion just die quietly.

People right now are finding each other to talk about The O.C. when they want to, and it's working for them, as far as I can tell. I pretty much have kept to Spoilers, Music, and Other Media for months now, and that's working for me. The Buffyverse continues to exist, even if there's no new show-creation happening; there were Trek fans for decades between shows being happily Trekkie, too. Let's see how things go over the next couple of months, and see what we need when we get there.

I'm sincerely tempted to NOT try to steer where we go next,

Well this may be the consensus that comes out of the discussion (that is, just let things follow their course for now), but I don't think the discussion should be avoided. It's a little too "pay no attention to the elephant in the corner" for my comfort.

I hate the idea of a "genre" TV thread and a "teen soap" thread and it might be because the naming of it in that manner really rubs me wrong. Because the use of genre like that pushes big giant buttons on me. Obviously my issue.

I didn't mean to diminish either because I like both of those things (I've loved soaps my whole life and have often been mocked because of it) and I'm pretty sure that my idea is actually a bad idea--I was just kind of throwing it out there.

I would rather have a general tv thread where we can discuss what we are watching as we are watching it, without limiting it to specific shows. Whitefonted for others in different time zones.

A TV thread(s) is (are) one of those things that sounds really good to me in practice but, in reality, I probably won't ever use. I loved the idea of a movies thread. I think I've been in there twice since it opened.

To me, it makes sense to see how things settle down in the post-ME TV world and then have this discussion.

Though if someone wanted to propose a Home Improvement TV Show thread, I will second you till the cows come home.

People want to know if people want new threads -- that's a Lightbulb discussion.

I find this statement a little confusing. If we want to have a discussion about new threads, doesn't that take place here? I thought Lightbulb was a thread limited in time (four days) and scope (discussing a proposal that is on the table with four seconds), and was not to be used for general discussion over what kind of proposed threads we think we should have in the future.

Not that I'm gung-ho on seeing another 900 post discussion on Who-We-Are and Where-We're-Going right now. But if it's meant to be, it's meant to be here, I think.

Personally, I'd love some kind of TV thread--because while I enjoy the occasional discussion of, say, Joan of Arcadia, I also when reading Natter or Bitches want ot catch up on the random...um...natter. And if I dont' watch JoA for a day or two, I'm not going to go back 300 posts and figure out where the discussion was. If there's a TV thread, I can just not read it until I've watched the episode.

But then, I suppose if I really cared, I'd mark the posts. So, whatever.

(Count me as another former Smallville thread person who ran away when all the talk seemed to be Stargate and Farscape, neither of which I've seen)

So the question is, what are we going to talk about? And I think the answer is: same damn thing we've been talking about. Everything.

Oh my goodness, I think I'm in love with Liese.