Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.

Mal ,'Safe'


Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?  

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Polter-Cow - Aug 17, 2005 4:51:49 am PDT #5369 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

More likely she was checking referrer logs. It's what I do.

Yeah, that's what I meant, in so many words.


§ ita § - Aug 17, 2005 5:14:14 am PDT #5370 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In case you need to say it again -- I'd drop the meter/counter lingo, since that's something different.


Polter-Cow - Aug 17, 2005 5:20:22 am PDT #5371 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Are there referrer logs that come without a meter/counter? I've only seen them as part of the various bits of information a meter/counter provides for you.


§ ita § - Aug 17, 2005 5:23:11 am PDT #5372 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are there referrer logs that come without a meter/counter?

Referrer logs are a standard HTTP server function. Every time a web page is served up, information is written to a file.

Meters and counters -- well, I'm not sure precisely how meter is defined, but counters have no inherent relation to or dependence on a referrer log.

There's nothing you have to do or install to have server logs generated -- the magic is in parsing them usefully.


Polter-Cow - Aug 17, 2005 5:28:10 am PDT #5373 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Aha. Okay, I didn't know that. So that counter software just reports to you the referrer logs you could view yourself if you knew how.


Jon B. - Aug 17, 2005 5:56:54 am PDT #5374 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Lots of web page hosting companies (the free ones mostly) do not give the user sufficient access to look at the referrer logs. For those users, counter applets can be useful.


§ ita § - Aug 17, 2005 7:00:25 am PDT #5375 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Absolutely. They just don't have anything to do with logs (well, it's been a while -- they used to be apps that wrote their own info -- but in the page (even with server side scripting), not independent of it).


§ ita § - Aug 17, 2005 7:26:55 am PDT #5376 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jesse -- did B&N ever affiliate us?


Jesse - Aug 17, 2005 7:42:38 am PDT #5377 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

No, they hate us.


§ ita § - Aug 17, 2005 7:43:16 am PDT #5378 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hmmph. Tossers.