How do we enforce that though (or even be on watch for it), when not everyone reads through lightbulb?

I don't think you can enforce a thing. In the end, if LeN had decided to submit a proposal about what sort of sandwich she was to have for lunch, and a poorly phrased one at that, so be it.

Okay, I'm fine with it. Sorry for stirring the pot. It all came out to a conclusion that could be implemented, and the proposer had the right to phrase the ballot any way she pleased. I was just mildly befuddled because I thought I had understood the ballot one way before and after implementation understood it another (clearly the intended) way.

Cindy,

well if you had issues with it, I would have liked to hear it. Hearing about it after that fact doesn't do much good.

I just don't know what the ballot should have looked like. It was way too difficult trying to accomodate the most people possible.

Sorry if the ballot was fucked up but that was the only thing I could think of that didn't wholesale alienate anyone.

le n, I'm not sure there was a good way to build this ballot. The best one I could think of would be to ask people to pick one of the possible spolier-lite descriptions, but that runs into problems because we've decided everything needs to have more than 50 percent to pass. You did a good job with a tough ballot, and I thank you. (And I agree people should have brought up issues before today.)

LeN, I wouldn't worry about it -- I don't see as how you have anything to apologise for. It seems clear that the majority got what they wanted, and that's the only post mortem criterion worth considering.

Next time, though, you might want to consider Scantron.

Sorry if the ballot was fucked up but that was the only thing I could think of that didn't wholesale alienate anyone.

I think I speak for most of us when I say the ballot accurately reflected a very thoughtful and conscientious effort on your part to incorporate as many of the concerns voiced in Lightbulb by people like myself and Cindy and others as was humanly (or even superhumanly) possible under the circumstances. Without going back to count, you must have changed that ballot nearly 10 times before we were through.

The faults in the crafting of the ballot lie squarely on the community for not consensing on a clear picture of how the ideal ballot should have looked like, and certainly not on you, our intrepid proposer. So the discussion is about how the community can help draw a clearer picture in the future.

Speaking for myself, you did the best you could, and your best was pretty fucking awesome.

ita, there won't ever be a next time.

Thanks Wolfram. I really do hope most people got what they wanted.

Without sounding self-serving (since I was pretty adamant about what I wanted) I think the will of the buffistas was accurately reflected.

makes room in the post-proposer support group for le nubian