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Fuffy ,'Storyteller'


Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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le nubian - Nov 07, 2004 4:13:10 pm PST #2856 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I just don't know what the ballot should have looked like. It was way too difficult trying to accomodate the most people possible.

Sorry if the ballot was fucked up but that was the only thing I could think of that didn't wholesale alienate anyone.


Lyra Jane - Nov 07, 2004 4:16:37 pm PST #2857 of 10001
Up with the sun

le n, I'm not sure there was a good way to build this ballot. The best one I could think of would be to ask people to pick one of the possible spolier-lite descriptions, but that runs into problems because we've decided everything needs to have more than 50 percent to pass. You did a good job with a tough ballot, and I thank you. (And I agree people should have brought up issues before today.)


§ ita § - Nov 07, 2004 4:17:03 pm PST #2858 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

LeN, I wouldn't worry about it -- I don't see as how you have anything to apologise for. It seems clear that the majority got what they wanted, and that's the only post mortem criterion worth considering.

Next time, though, you might want to consider Scantron.


Wolfram - Nov 07, 2004 4:20:59 pm PST #2859 of 10001
Visilurking

Sorry if the ballot was fucked up but that was the only thing I could think of that didn't wholesale alienate anyone.

I think I speak for most of us when I say the ballot accurately reflected a very thoughtful and conscientious effort on your part to incorporate as many of the concerns voiced in Lightbulb by people like myself and Cindy and others as was humanly (or even superhumanly) possible under the circumstances. Without going back to count, you must have changed that ballot nearly 10 times before we were through.

The faults in the crafting of the ballot lie squarely on the community for not consensing on a clear picture of how the ideal ballot should have looked like, and certainly not on you, our intrepid proposer. So the discussion is about how the community can help draw a clearer picture in the future.

Speaking for myself, you did the best you could, and your best was pretty fucking awesome.


le nubian - Nov 07, 2004 4:21:08 pm PST #2860 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita, there won't ever be a next time.


le nubian - Nov 07, 2004 4:22:17 pm PST #2861 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Thanks Wolfram. I really do hope most people got what they wanted.


Wolfram - Nov 07, 2004 4:24:22 pm PST #2862 of 10001
Visilurking

Without sounding self-serving (since I was pretty adamant about what I wanted) I think the will of the buffistas was accurately reflected.

makes room in the post-proposer support group for le nubian


JenP - Nov 07, 2004 4:26:44 pm PST #2863 of 10001

le nubian - you've got nothing to apologize for, far as I see it. It was clear to me that you tried to accomodate/synthesize everyone's suggestions, and goodness knows you were patient. So. Good for you, I say.


Liese S. - Nov 07, 2004 4:36:46 pm PST #2864 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

le nubian, let me add my voice to the assurers, since I launched this round of discussion. You did a great job with a difficult project, and accommodated everyone as well as could be done. In the end, the result was approved by the process and was promptly implemented. In every way I can see, yours was a successful proposal and implementation. My apologies for what was definitely just my confusion, adding to the volume. We appreciate the service you did for the community, specifically for people with interests beyond just your own. So, my apologies, and my thanks.


le nubian - Nov 07, 2004 4:42:02 pm PST #2865 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

If people got what they wanted, that's good for me. Onward! :-)

Thanks all.