People getting spanked for not using the affiliate links doesn't.
Yeah, see, that's an argument you're going to have to hold onto until someone a) suggests it or b) you can show it's a likely result of my suggestion.
Cause I got nothing for you.
Early: Where'd she go? Simon: I can't keep track of her when she's not incorporeally possessing a space ship. Don't look at me.
'Objects In Space'
Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
§ ita § - Oct 20, 2004 7:38:40 pm PDT #2610 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Gus - Oct 20, 2004 7:45:32 pm PDT #2611 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
Holy crap! How do you bookmark a post? I have only been here a few years, so it is not immediately apparent.
Polter-Cow - Oct 20, 2004 7:46:45 pm PDT #2612 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Holy crap! How do you bookmark a post? I have only been here a few years, so it is not immediately apparent.
You hit "Mark," fool.
Burrell - Oct 20, 2004 7:47:17 pm PDT #2613 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
or b) you can show it's a likely result of my suggestion.
Well, if rumor is to be trusted, some of the Buffistas have been known to engage in the odd spanking ritual or two, so it's not entirely unlikely....
Maria - Oct 20, 2004 7:48:09 pm PDT #2614 of 10001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift
Gus, darling, click "Mark" after the post number. Once that has been accomplished, look to the left hand side of the screen, in the Message Center link area, and click on "View Bookmarks" to, incidentally, view your bookmarks.
Mwah!
§ ita § - Oct 20, 2004 7:48:32 pm PDT #2615 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
it's not entirely unlikely....
You'd need to not only demonstrate causality, but also a sound case that the spanking wouldn't have happened in the alternate universe anyway.
That's the hard part.
Gus - Oct 20, 2004 7:50:17 pm PDT #2616 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
You hit "Mark," fool.
Joke, P-C. The skinny geek made a joke. A miserably weak joke, of course, but hey, read "the skinny geek" part again, and extrapolate.
Liese S. - Oct 20, 2004 8:25:15 pm PDT #2617 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Ha. Look at me with the protesting and running, and the people doing my arguing for me, even when I wasn't. Yay Buffistas.
First, I know it was a brainstorm, Gus, so smooches right back atcha, in a chaste desert way, of course. I'm just reacting to having anything automatically insert marketing links into my content. That would upset me. That's why I refuse to get gmail. It's fundamentally against the way I think about mindshare.
Secondly, I think upstream I mentioned that most of the objection to affiliate links last round of this was probably me, and that I'm less grumpy about it these days.
aurelia correctly remembers part of my original objection. I still don't shop at Amazon, probably for the same philosophical reason ita doesn't. I hold my techie grudges long and firmly. I do, however, shop at bn.com when necessary, so I'm not as loyal an indie as all that. (Although, of course, my meatspace location has neither large corporate bookstores or quaint indie ones. Good library, though.) Again, this is my own personal grudge, and of course other people (including my SO) shop at Amazon, and that's just fine for them. If they do so through Jon's buffista account, so much the better.
The other part of my earlier objection was along the lines of what Gus was interpolating; that is, that I see plenty of advertising all over the web, and since we're paying for this particular site our own damn selves, I'm not convinced it's necessary to add it here. (I guess I should express that I regard the mere persistent presence of the corporate name/logo as advertising, since it's brand recongnition at the very least.) At the time, the discussion was a front page link/store buttons, which I would still be opposed to.
Anyway! As previously mentioned, I have gotten over myself for a portion of this, so you wanna create some affiliate links and throw them on the links page, I guess I don't ever have to know about it. I can avoid the links page, and carry on my happy, corporation-ignorant existence.
I would like to see Buffistas remain a pristine zone of no-logo, but hey, things change. And I guess people see it as free money, so what's the harm. So. I guess the only thing to cover would be, how do we gauge which places to affiliate ourselves with?
aurelia - Oct 20, 2004 11:26:58 pm PDT #2618 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
Do affiliate links necessarily mean logos? I'd been imagining links that look like any other link on the Phoenix Board.
DXMachina - Oct 21, 2004 2:53:50 am PDT #2619 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
I have no objection to affiliate links on the links page. I think it's a good idea. I do object to the other part of Gus's brainstorm, which (if I read it correctly) was to use the [link] conversion code to automatically convert links in posts to the affiliate address. For example, if Hec was to post the Amazon URL to his new book, the code would convert it not just to [link], but would go even further and convert the link to the Buffistas' affiliate URL. To me that would cross a bunch of ethical lines.