You're assuming the overlap was voting to say, "I don't want any new threads, but if we're going to have them, one should be for Veronica Mars"

This is what I assumed.

However, because I am pedantic, I decided that any vote of mine for specific shows would indicate interest in those threads that might override my vote for "no new threads." So I just voted "no new threads" and didn't indicate any interest in specific shows. I figured if the poll passed, and the vote to add passed, then I could (if I had to) vote for specific threads then.

I can't really see that it matters which way people took the vote.

We will be able to see that out of 100 voters, X voted for no new threads, regardless of what else they might have checked. If that is a pretty high number, I'm guessing this will end here.

If it's not, or for whatever reason we do go ahead with proposals for additional threads, then those people will be able to then decide that my No-Thread opinion is stronger than my ThisShow opinion or my ThatShow opinion. Or not. What the poll will help us avoid is going through the voting process for shows that nobody, wherever they stand on thread creation in general, has much interest in.

If 75 out of 100 people voted No Thread but also checked ThisShow as the one they'd least object to, but don't really want to establish it, that will come out when we have a straight up-down ballot. OTOH, if only 7 of those 75 plus only a dozen others indicated that they would be okay with a thread for ThatShow, then we likely won't have to bother with the actual voting.

Voting is now closed, according to Lyra Jane's schedule, and I have sent her the results.

And these are the results, from Lee's email:

99 people voted in all. 27 of them voted for no new thread. 3 of these people also voted for one or more shows.

Here are the shows voted for, and the number of votes for each:

Lost (54), The OC (21), The Daily Show (13), Gilmore Girls  (13), The Amazing race (12), Alias  (12), Veronica Mars  (12), Joan of Arcadia  (11), 24 (8), Dead Like Me  (6), Survivor (4).

No show in the "other" category was entered more than once. the list was nip/tuck, Showtime Sunday night (Dead like me, Huff, Queer as Folk, The L word) , Stargate, Adult Swim, Smallville, Gilligan's Island, All Reality Shows, Sopranos, America's next top model, CSI, Kevin Hill, Desperate Housewives, and "All of them." If I count "Showtime Sunday night" as a vote for Dead Like Me, and "All reality shows" as a vote for Survivor and The Amazing Race, it still doesn't really impact the results.

Based on that, the proposal will definitely include a Lost thread. I'm also leaning towards including The OC, because it is in second place and I suspect it will get more support once the new season starts. (And, okay, because I really like the show. No one said proposals had to be selfless, and it can still be voted down.)

Do I need to do the proposal/seconds thing again, or can we just go back into lightbulbs?

When does The O.C. start? I checked the website. They have a countdown clock. The O.C. premieres on November 4, 2004.

Is your proposal still going to include closing existing threads?

Is your proposal still going to include closing existing threads?

Probably, yeah. I see it as what Kerry would call a "pay as you go" thing -- if we want to limit our total number of threads for both technical and ease-of-use reasons, we need to eliminate outdated threads before we start new ones. But if the techies tell me it's irrelevant, or the will of the people seems to be that it's not something to vote on, I'll take it out.

I am going to include the clause that if the show is canceled, the thread goes bye-bye.

The one surprise for me was how highly Gilmore Girls placed, because AFAIK no one has ever suggested an independent thread for it.

Wow. More than half the voters wanted Lost. Coolness.

It'd be interesting to see how this gets sorted out in a proposal. If as many as 54 people are willing to participate in the discussion of the show (although a good proportion of these may be the ones who were annoyed by the wf from natter), maybe a single dedicated thread would be the way to go. Then it could be made NAFDA, which will eliminate the white-font issue. Plus, it's got Fury, so there you have the ME connection, and I think it can even fall under 'genre TV' umbrella.

If seconds are needed, I'll provide one.

Count me as a third (if needed).

Forthded!

Particularly since I watched Lost for the first time last night - 4 eps in a row. Wheeeeee, I love how you guys corrupt me. First time I have made time for televised entertainment in a while. So worth the time.

t /natter