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Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?  

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Topic!Cindy - Apr 16, 2004 4:33:55 am PDT #104 of 10001
What is even happening?

How, Sue?


Sue - Apr 16, 2004 4:36:16 am PDT #105 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I think that the google ranking has to do partly with how many places link to you, as well as the tendency for people to click on the link. But my understanding is pretty basic.

I know that when people googlebomb, they want people to link to their sites, because that's how they get a higher result on Google.


§ ita § - Apr 16, 2004 4:36:32 am PDT #106 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

By having a web page that google hits that links to other sites with the same search terms.

I really doubt it's worth the effort -- googlebombing takes a lot of effort.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 16, 2004 4:59:47 am PDT #107 of 10001
What is even happening?

It must. Understanding it all is taking more energy than I have this morning.


§ ita § - Apr 16, 2004 5:03:57 am PDT #108 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

From the google site:

PageRank relies on the uniquely democratic nature of the web by using its vast link structure as an indicator of an individual page's value. In essence, Google interprets a link from page A to page B as a vote, by page A, for page B. But, Google looks at more than the sheer volume of votes, or links a page receives; it also analyzes the page that casts the vote. Votes cast by pages that are themselves "important" weigh more heavily and help to make other pages "important."

Important, high-quality sites receive a higher PageRank, which Google remembers each time it conducts a search. Of course, important pages mean nothing to you if they don't match your query. So, Google combines PageRank with sophisticated text-matching techniques to find pages that are both important and relevant to your search. Google goes far beyond the number of times a term appears on a page and examines all aspects of the page's content (and the content of the pages linking to it) to determine if it's a good match for your query.

I don't see how the number of hits can factor in, since this is information that Google wouldn't have.

Altering a PageRank. GoogleBombing, takes a whole lot of pages that Google lends credence to. Not easy. There's an effort underway to GoogleBomb the current #1 hit for jew, and although it seems lots of people are participating, nothing yet.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 16, 2004 5:21:11 am PDT #109 of 10001
What is even happening?

I don't see how the number of hits can factor in, since this is information that Google wouldn't have.

I am not sure if that's what I meant or not. I just meant googling Wonderfalls, and on the google page, then selecting every page that isn't ours. Wouldn't google know what we select from their own site? Regardless, now that you've explained the stuff above, I can see it would be like a tear drop in the ocean.

There's an effort underway to GoogleBomb the current #1 hit for jew, and although it seems lots of people are participating, nothing yet.

For "jew"? To what end, do you know?


§ ita § - Apr 16, 2004 5:22:53 am PDT #110 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am not sure if that's what I meant or not.

That was to Sue, actually.

To what end, do you know?

Try the search. You'll see.


Sue - Apr 16, 2004 5:25:22 am PDT #111 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I don't see how the number of hits can factor in, since this is information that Google wouldn't have.

I thnk I was confused about the part where page ranking gives more weight to the link. I knew there was something about popularity.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 16, 2004 5:32:10 am PDT #112 of 10001
What is even happening?

Try the search. You'll see.

Please tell me the GoogleBombing is to remove the number one hit, not reinforce it.


Wolfram - Apr 16, 2004 5:35:04 am PDT #113 of 10001
Visilurking

Please tell me the GoogleBombing is to remove the number one hit, not reinforce it.

It is. The antisemitic site, jewwatch dot com, has been the highest rank for about 3 years. Someone finally made this known publicly about a month ago, and they are now trying to push the Wikipedia page for Jew higher by putting a link to it under the word Jew on as many web pages as possible.