I walk. I talk. I shop, I sneeze. I'm gonna be a fireman when the floods roll back. There's trees in the desert since you moved out. And I don't sleep on a bed of bones.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


F2F 2: Is there anybody here that hasn't slept together?  

Plan what to do, what to wear (you can never go wrong with a corset), and get ready for the next BuffistaCon: New Orleans! May 20-22, 2005!


Steph L. - Jul 21, 2004 11:01:56 am PDT #6594 of 9999
I look more rad than Lutheranism

How often did Mother Theresa recommend helper monkeys?

Oh, all the time! Can't do housework because of leprosy-related missing limbs? Helper monkey! Can't remember to take your malaria medication? Helper monkey! Members of higher castes than your own sneer at you? Helper monkey = guaranteed poop-flinger.


askye - Jul 21, 2004 11:38:12 am PDT #6595 of 9999
Thrive to spite them

Sadly I've never shared a bed with any Buffistas.

I have slept in the same bed as Sean---in Anne W's nerd hole.


libkitty - Jul 21, 2004 11:47:09 am PDT #6596 of 9999
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

On a serious note, have you looked into having a sleep study done, Sean? A friend had pretty much the same symptoms as you describe. He had a sleep study, and they prescribed a CPAP machine. They said that if he didn't use it, he would die of a heart attack in his forties. I don't know about that, but from what I hear, he's much happier now and nicer to be around. My uncle wasn't quite as bad, although bad enough, but now that he has a CPAP machine, he no longer falls asleep at the dining room table. I know that these studies aren't cheap, but they're mostly covered by insurance if you have it, and perhaps worthwhile even if you don't. I know it's not a helper monkey...


brenda m - Jul 21, 2004 11:58:28 am PDT #6597 of 9999
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Heh. My dad has a CPAP, which did wonders. He looks like a character out of Pigs in Space when he has it on. Which I am at pains to mention. Frequently. Piiiigs Iiiiinn Spaaaace!


Toddson - Jul 21, 2004 12:19:54 pm PDT #6598 of 9999
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

The sleep apnea is worth having checked. Aside from the dangers, it cal also lead to merely unpleasant things. There's a man in my office who was suffering with it - he kept falling asleep. He once fell asleep, at the office, in the middle of a phone call.


DXMachina - Jul 21, 2004 12:26:53 pm PDT #6599 of 9999
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Okay, I need feedback on this. DX, are you around? On Thursday, how many people were around, and was it a problem to not have the hosp. suite / would it have been better to have had a hosp. suite on Thurs. ? I need to know whether to say we need a hosp. suite Thurs. - Mon. or if Fri. -Mon. is okay.

There were a lot of people around, but most of them were hanging at Anne's house Thursday night. There weren't a lot of folks at the hotel because of the cost. In LA we got along pretty well without the suite on Thursday because Laura and Brendon let us all hang out in their suite.


Sean K - Jul 21, 2004 12:29:44 pm PDT #6600 of 9999
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Well it's apparently not so bad, as I don't like, fall asleep during the day or anything. Though I'm far too often lethargic, which I'm sure is because of the poor sleeping.

Well, someday, if I ever have health care again, I'll look into the possibility of getting it checked out. Until then, I just keep hoping I don't slip and fall, or really injure myself, or get into a car accident or anything, because I have no covereage of any kind, whatsoever.

My current health plan is Rite Aide.

Umm.... So, hopefully no slipping and falling in SF. Or wherever the next F2F is.


Nutty - Jul 21, 2004 12:59:51 pm PDT #6601 of 9999
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think the short term sleep apnea solution is to build a circuit that only closes when yoru breathing stops. Circuit closes; you electrocute yourself awake; you start breathing again. Unfortunately, this means sleeping with wires up your nose.

For my next trick, I will build an Erector set that can do my taxes.


Aims - Jul 21, 2004 1:03:23 pm PDT #6602 of 9999
Shit's all sorts of different now.

If you build an erector set that can do taxes can the cost of the erector set then be written off as a tax expense??


Jon B. - Jul 21, 2004 1:43:09 pm PDT #6603 of 9999
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

they prescribed a CPAP machine.

Am I the only one who read this as CRAP machine?