Ooh! I've been to an SF DMV! It was near, um... somewhere. Hec took me there during my great How Do I Get Home Without a Driver's License adventure (which encompassed three calls to the airline -- netting three different answers, one of them correct, but no way of knowing in advance which one -- two police stations -- two answers again -- and one trip to the DMV -- which told me, correctly, that they couldn't do anything for me and the nice police officer had lied to me).

Um, I remember a lot of people. That's all.

How do you fly without a drivers license? I was almost in that boat last time I was in California and didn't get an answer before my ID turned up.

You go through the Heavy Duty Security process.

Or, it probably depends on how suspicious you look. In my case, they put "Extra Security Check" on my boarding pass, made me wait while they sent my baggage through the Extra Special Security scanner, and had to do an extra check of me before the plane (actually, had to hold the plane while we waited for a female TSA person to show up and pat me down).

On the other hand, for whatever reason they were checking licenses at boarding and not at the metal detectors at that airport on that day. It seems to vary by airport (at least).

They let me fly last Thanksgiving with an old student ID - with a bright orange sticker on it announcing that it expired in 1992.

License stolen at ten o'clock the night before a seven am flight - not fun. But an interesting window on our new "high security" regime. The other amusing discovery - if they took your nail clippers away at security so that you couldn't, you know, hijack the plane? Not to worry, you can buy a new pair at the gift shop inside the security area at LaGuardia.

I had no other ID, having lost my license in the Grand Canyon in the course of my trip. I actually got it mailed back to me, over a year later, by way of the DNR and the DMV.

Just a quick reminder -- if you haven't already voted in Round 1 of next year's F2F, voting ends tomorrow at 5. (I'll count everything postmarked before 5:00 pm board time.)

Results may be delayed a bit but should be posted NLT 10:00 EDT (7:00 board time, and other times in other time zones).

They let me fly last Thanksgiving with an old student ID - with a bright orange sticker on it announcing that it expired in 1992.

I remember travelling into the US, fumbling for my drivers license and the impatient US Customs officer jsut grabbed the first picture ID that appeared, which was my three year since expired student ID. Then he didn't know what Archives were, so I had to explain that...

I'm working out Nilly's itinerary and health insurance, today.

Question for Nilly's New York hosts: She'll be flying from San Fran to New York for the last week of her trip. JFK or La Guardia?

Is Nilly only doing a week on the East Coast?

She said a week and hopefully more. We have to hammer it all out, and it depends on the length of her tourist visa, I would think, and who will be hosting her in New York.

Who is hosting Nilly in New York? I'll need to be in toouch with the person responsible for picking her up from the airport and taking her back so I can make sure they have a copy of her itinerary. I'm not sure if she'll need it for her ticket, but also a name, aaddress, and phone number for her New York host for emergency contact info, and for the airline (in case there's a change in the flight, they'll need to contact her).

I'm also starting her health insurance paperwork (she needs it for her stay), and usually just get the Blue Cross short term plan.

Blue Cross is in NY, right?