Exactly. Why is this stuff on the forms? If you're going to answer "yes", your eligibility to enter the United States isn't what's in question: it's whether or not you have enough grey matter to walk and chew gum at the same time.
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deborah grabien - Jul 12, 2004 9:00:48 am PDT #6126 of 9999
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Trudy Booth - Jul 12, 2004 9:03:28 am PDT #6127 of 9999
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Well, if you lie on the form they can boot you out for that even if you haven't actually blown anything up. I'm sure it comes in handy sometimes.
deborah grabien - Jul 12, 2004 9:05:43 am PDT #6128 of 9999
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Trudy, in the current environment of terrorist-terror fueled paranoia, they'd arrest you for even thinking about it. Hello, Gitmo.
Those questions, at this moment in American history, seem completely pointless. It's like asking whether someone's grandmother's Great Dane was ever a contributor to the Communist Party, or something.
§ ita § - Jul 12, 2004 9:05:55 am PDT #6129 of 9999
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
But how do they find out you were lying without you being guilty of something worth tossing you out for anyway? They can turf you for conspiracy, can't they?
Trudy Booth - Jul 12, 2004 9:09:02 am PDT #6130 of 9999
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
But how do they find out you were lying without you being guilty of something worth tossing you out for anyway? They can turf you for conspiracy, can't the?
Say they come across a membership list with your name on it. They can just boot you for lying on the form and not have any picky-ass "trial". Hell, they can clear out half a dozen other dudes with the same name.
Or, you know, ship you to Gitmo.
Jessica - Jul 12, 2004 9:10:06 am PDT #6131 of 9999
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Yeah, I'm thinking if they recognize your name/picture as someone on the State Department's "Evil: Do not give visa to" list, charging you with filling out a form wrong isn't going to be necessary.
Sean K - Jul 12, 2004 9:24:49 am PDT #6132 of 9999
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
The DMV in Boston has gotten somewhat civilized. You take a number and sit on benches until your number appears on a big screen.
The Hollywood branch is like this too.
I loved Nilly's line story. It was beautiful.
Nutty - Jul 12, 2004 10:38:06 am PDT #6133 of 9999
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Well, if you lie on the form they can boot you out for that even if you haven't actually blown anything up.
And the flip side of this is, if you didn't lie on the form, and for whatever reason they let you in anyway, it's much much harder to get you booted out later if they decide they have cause. A lot of ex-Nazis were allowed into the US in the late 40s-50s, avowed they were ex-Nazis on their immigration forms, and then when the world got around to extraditing/prosecuting some 30, 40, 50 years later, the extradition and citizenship-stripping (?) trials were extremely unpleasant and slow.
Betsy HP - Jul 12, 2004 11:51:14 am PDT #6134 of 9999
If I only had a brain...
DMV in SF is painless; call for an appointment and zero waiting, or do your business entirely online, rather than in line.
Huh. Down here in the Valley, it's call for an appointment and *get to wait in a shorter line*. Seriously. There's an Appointments line.
deborah grabien - Jul 12, 2004 1:57:30 pm PDT #6135 of 9999
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Betsy, I swear, an appointment at the Fell Street DMV? I've done four of them now, and the only line is the check-in.
Total wait, with an appointment, from walking in, including the check-in line? Six minutes.
I can deal with that.