I'll just jump in my time machine, go back to the twelfth century, and ask the vampires to postpone their ancient prophesy for a few days while you take in dinner and a show.

Giles ,'Selfless'


F2F 2: Is there anybody here that hasn't slept together?  

Plan what to do, what to wear (you can never go wrong with a corset), and get ready for the next BuffistaCon: New Orleans! May 20-22, 2005!


Sheryl - Jun 23, 2004 2:41:32 pm PDT #5880 of 9999
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Y'know, this is a weird argument, even for us. Carry on.

(Edited to fix spelling)


§ ita § - Jun 23, 2004 2:43:00 pm PDT #5881 of 9999
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Mystified by this, sweetie

Sorry -- you agreed with Sean, and I thought that meant you were going by the receipt not what had been eaten, like he said.

Now I see you don't agree with him, so I withdraw that.


Sean K - Jun 23, 2004 2:43:49 pm PDT #5882 of 9999
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Same thing as if you lose everything but the olives.

Yeah, but if you eat only the olives, you still have, you know, a whole sandwich left over, which you don't have the other way around, and thus it's not all that difficult to say that the one (without the olives) is a muffaleta, and the other (the olives) is not.

Ditto for Muffaletta eaters who scrape off the olives.

Pffft.... If you were to scrape the olives off and leave it sitting out, somebody else walking by would see it, and at first glance, they'd probably think "hey look, a muffaleta," not "I think I know wwhat that is, but I better double check that the olive salad is on it before I'm satisfied with my sandwich identification abilities."


§ ita § - Jun 23, 2004 2:45:11 pm PDT #5883 of 9999
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

but if you eat only the olives, you still have, you know, a whole sandwich left

So if you lose everything but the bread and the olives, it's then still a muffaletta?

Assuming they didn't just put "sandwich" on the receipt, which could wreck everything.


deborah grabien - Jun 23, 2004 2:45:25 pm PDT #5884 of 9999
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Now I see you don't agree with him, so I withdraw that.

Nah, I do agree with him on the hard currency part, because from what I remember of the folks who lifted an eyebrow as they held the olives, thirty plus years ago in NOLA? They wrote "muffaletta n/o" on the receipt.

But you asked specifically what you were eating if you only ate the olives. I think in that instance, you're eating olives.


DavidS - Jun 23, 2004 2:45:39 pm PDT #5885 of 9999
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Unlike Hil, I consider the olives to be the defining ingredient of the muffaletta - even moreso than the bread. It is not a mere condiment but that thing which transforms an otherwise basic Italian sandwich into a muffy. It is the transmogrifier.

It's like saying, "I made Coq au vin with hot dogs and beer instead of chicken and wine."


Sean K - Jun 23, 2004 2:45:41 pm PDT #5886 of 9999
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Dude, even by sixth grade trying to make your case by trace elements is to concede the entire argument. Trace elements only count in chemistry and criminal forensics .

If you're lactose intolerant, those trace amounts of cheese will make a big difference then.

Sorry -- you agreed with Sean, and I thought that meant you were going by the receipt not what had been eaten, like he said.

Now I see you don't agree with him, so I withdraw that.

I've moved on from the receipt thing. You should let it go.


Lee - Jun 23, 2004 2:47:06 pm PDT #5887 of 9999
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I say this with love, but you all know that you are BIG GIANT FREAKS, right?


Hil R. - Jun 23, 2004 2:47:20 pm PDT #5888 of 9999
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Unlike Hil, I consider the olives to be the defining ingredient of the muffaletta - even moreso than the bread.

So you're saying that, if you put the meat and cheese and olives onto a sub roll, you'd still have a muffaletta, rather than a sub with olives?


DavidS - Jun 23, 2004 2:47:39 pm PDT #5889 of 9999
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I say this with love, but you all know that you are BIG GIANT FREAKS, right?

If you had a muffeletta you'd understand.