I'm all up in the law now, but damn it feels good to get my violence on.

Gunn ,'Unleashed'


F2F 2: Is there anybody here that hasn't slept together?  

Plan what to do, what to wear (you can never go wrong with a corset), and get ready for the next BuffistaCon: New Orleans! May 20-22, 2005!


deborah grabien - Jun 23, 2004 2:12:09 pm PDT #5860 of 9999
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Dude, if I ask for a freakin' muffaletta and they make me one and I scrape off the shit in it that I can't eat without getting sick?

I am eating the sandwich I asked for. Which is a muffaletta. Which is also the sandwich I paid for.

Pfffffft.


Sean K - Jun 23, 2004 2:15:24 pm PDT #5861 of 9999
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

See? Deb knows what I'm talking about....

Check the receipt. If it says "muffaletta" on it, you just ate a muffaletta, regardless of which parts fail to actually pass through your digestive tract.


Fred Pete - Jun 23, 2004 2:17:58 pm PDT #5862 of 9999
Ann, that's a ferret.

Fred Pete had volunteered earlier to count votes. If he's still willing then I'm thinking we can go with the b.org ballot system, it seems to have the least potential for error.

Driving by. Still willing.

Joining the no-olive bandwagon. Will trade olives for scallions.


§ ita § - Jun 23, 2004 2:18:01 pm PDT #5863 of 9999
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So if you buy a muffaleta and only eat the olives, you've eaten a muffy?


deborah grabien - Jun 23, 2004 2:18:58 pm PDT #5864 of 9999
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

(Belly-bumps Sean) Damn right, bro.

Yeah. I ordered the sandwich, I handed over the money, I'm calling it a muffaletta, damn it.


Hil R. - Jun 23, 2004 2:20:00 pm PDT #5865 of 9999
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

So if you buy a muffaleta and only eat the olives, you've eaten a muffy?

Nope. You need the bread. (If you eat the bread with just the olives, you've eaten a weird muffaleta, but you've still eaten one.)


deborah grabien - Jun 23, 2004 2:20:09 pm PDT #5866 of 9999
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

So if you buy a muffaleta and only eat the olives, you've eaten a muffy?

No. You've eaten a bunch of nasty briney crap and handed a perfectly good muffaletta without the nasty briney crap to someone else, or thrown it away.


DavidS - Jun 23, 2004 2:20:37 pm PDT #5867 of 9999
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But if you buy a sandwich and fail to eat the bread, how is that not still a sandwich, just one eaten in a peculiar manner?

You're presuming something like a muffeletta is an irreducible essence, when it is rather the sum of its parts. Without the olives (or bread) it's not a muffeletta. It's a sub or it's a pile of cold cuts but it isn't a muffeletta.

If you order a cheeseburger and scrape off the cheese and eat it, you have not just eaten a cheese burger. You ate a hamburger.


§ ita § - Jun 23, 2004 2:20:58 pm PDT #5868 of 9999
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You need the bread.

I would have thought there's SOME minimum requirement. Sean and Deb, NSM.

If you order a cheeseburger, hold the cheese, what have you ordered? If you do the cheese holding yourself, what have you eaten?

I agree that there's an irreducible essence to many dishes. Whether or not it's the olive wrt muffalettas, I dunno.


JenP - Jun 23, 2004 2:23:42 pm PDT #5869 of 9999

All I'm saying is ... somebody needs to give Dana a damn muffaletta (however you choose to define it) before she starts contemplating life with only one eye.