Raquel, I agree with you; I'm one of those who find book!Faramir more appealing than movie!Faramir, though I did like him lots more in ROTK. But I seriously almost screamed in the theater when he decided to take the Ring to Gondor. And you're right about him not being the only one not tempted by the Ring. Gandalf and Galadriel are both tempted in part because they are so powerful (and they are both wise enough to know that they could not use the Ring for anything but an evil purpose), but I think one reason Faramir is able to resist is because he has no real tangible power, what with Boromir being the favored son.
Right. Piano. Because that's what we used to kill that big demon that one time. No, wait. That was a rocket launcher.
Xander ,'Touched'
LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".
Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
Kate P. - Dec 23, 2003 2:54:55 pm PST #822 of 3902
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
MechaKrelboyne - Dec 23, 2003 3:34:50 pm PST #823 of 3902
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious
This is what I mean about the Middle Earth's never ending war between Legolas and Physics. It pretty much blows the threat curve of all the baddies. Enh, just throw SuperElf at 'em and let's all get drunk. It's annoying. Oddly enough, I think the most annoying was the Last Toboggan Ride of the Elf. Much moreso than the Oliphaunt . I really prefer FoTR Legolas. I mean all else aside, the stuff gets so over the top that I can't enjoy it anyway. Of course that's a broad generalisation, but everybody makes broad generalisations. At least I do.
On the other hand, I much prefer movie Faramir. In the book he pretty much stole all the heat from the ring. It's established that the ring wants to be taken by Man, because they're more easily corrupted. Aragorn managed to resist it enough to let Frodo leave, thus removing temptation before it can set in on them. Faramir does pretty much the same thing, with a bit more tension. Tension is good.
Finally, the Son of Gloin. Definitely, if we combined TTT neck hewing with RoTK dialogue, we'd have the best of all possible Gimli's.
§ ita § - Dec 23, 2003 3:58:28 pm PST #824 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
if we combined TTT neck hewing with RoTK dialogue, we'd have the best of all possible Gimli's.
Yes. And if we combine the FotR fighting with the RotK Gondor sickroom appearance, we get the best of all possible Legolases.
Katie M - Dec 23, 2003 4:00:15 pm PST #825 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
You know, I don't recall ever feeling that Aragorn was tempted by the Ring in the books either.
Jessica - Dec 23, 2003 4:04:52 pm PST #826 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
I vaguely remember him making one or two Gandalf-esque "You'd *really* better not offer me that thing" statements to Frodo, but it's possible I'm misremembering.
Elena - Dec 23, 2003 4:05:13 pm PST #827 of 3902
Thanks for all the fish.
I recall that Aragorn was afraid that it would have power over him. More of a preventative temptation avoidance thing.
amyparker - Dec 23, 2003 4:08:15 pm PST #828 of 3902
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.
I remember a line to the effect of "If I wanted the Ring, I would have it," but I'm too lazy to walk across the room to look it up.
Jessica - Dec 23, 2003 4:11:05 pm PST #829 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
If I wanted the Ring, I would have it
That's definitely Gandalf's line. (In the movies, it's "I'm not trying to ROB YOU! I'm trying to help you." I liked the book version better.)
[eta: No, I take that back, I think -- Gandalf says it to Bilbo at Bag End, but then Aragorn says almost the same thing to Frodo in Bree. Lemme look it up.]
Jessica - Dec 23, 2003 4:19:21 pm PST #830 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
Here it is:
Pippin subsided, but Sam was not daunted, and he still eyed Strider dubiously. "How do we know you are the Strider that Gandalf speaks about?" he demanded. "You never mentioned Gandalf, till this letter came out. You might be a play-acting spy, for all I can see, trying to get us to go with you. You might have done in the real Strider and took his clothes. What have you to say to that?"
"That you are a stout fellow," answered Strider; "but I am afraid my only answer to you, Sam Gamgee, is this. If I had killed the real Strider, I could kill you. And I should have killed you already without so much talk. I was after the Ring, I could have it -- NOW!"
He stood up, and seemed suddenly to grow taller. In his eyes gleamed a light, keen and commanding. Throwing back his cloak, he laid his hand on the hilt of a sword that had hung concealed by his side. They did not dare to move. Sam sat wide-mouthed staring at him dumbly.
"But I am the real Strider, fortunately," he said, looking down on them with his face softened by a sudden smile. "I am Aragorn, son of Arathorn; and if by my life or death I can save you, I will."
Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 23, 2003 4:25:15 pm PST #831 of 3902
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Hm, that's a good point. In the movies, the good guys (other than the Fellowship) are represented by a country run by a madman and a country run by a guy with a death wish and no tactical skills. Not much to root for, when you think about it.
And Jess pegs the reason I'm a Canadian sympathizer rather than U.S. or Great Britian.