if we combined TTT neck hewing with RoTK dialogue, we'd have the best of all possible Gimli's.
Yes. And if we combine the FotR fighting with the RotK Gondor sickroom appearance, we get the best of all possible Legolases.
And you're sure this isn't just some fanboy thing? 'Cause I've fought more than a couple pimply, overweight vamps that called themselves Lestat.
Buffy ,'Lessons'
LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".
Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
§ ita § - Dec 23, 2003 3:58:28 pm PST #824 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Katie M - Dec 23, 2003 4:00:15 pm PST #825 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
You know, I don't recall ever feeling that Aragorn was tempted by the Ring in the books either.
Jessica - Dec 23, 2003 4:04:52 pm PST #826 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
I vaguely remember him making one or two Gandalf-esque "You'd *really* better not offer me that thing" statements to Frodo, but it's possible I'm misremembering.
Elena - Dec 23, 2003 4:05:13 pm PST #827 of 3902
Thanks for all the fish.
I recall that Aragorn was afraid that it would have power over him. More of a preventative temptation avoidance thing.
amyparker - Dec 23, 2003 4:08:15 pm PST #828 of 3902
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.
I remember a line to the effect of "If I wanted the Ring, I would have it," but I'm too lazy to walk across the room to look it up.
Jessica - Dec 23, 2003 4:11:05 pm PST #829 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
If I wanted the Ring, I would have it
That's definitely Gandalf's line. (In the movies, it's "I'm not trying to ROB YOU! I'm trying to help you." I liked the book version better.)
[eta: No, I take that back, I think -- Gandalf says it to Bilbo at Bag End, but then Aragorn says almost the same thing to Frodo in Bree. Lemme look it up.]
Jessica - Dec 23, 2003 4:19:21 pm PST #830 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
Here it is:
Pippin subsided, but Sam was not daunted, and he still eyed Strider dubiously. "How do we know you are the Strider that Gandalf speaks about?" he demanded. "You never mentioned Gandalf, till this letter came out. You might be a play-acting spy, for all I can see, trying to get us to go with you. You might have done in the real Strider and took his clothes. What have you to say to that?"
"That you are a stout fellow," answered Strider; "but I am afraid my only answer to you, Sam Gamgee, is this. If I had killed the real Strider, I could kill you. And I should have killed you already without so much talk. I was after the Ring, I could have it -- NOW!"
He stood up, and seemed suddenly to grow taller. In his eyes gleamed a light, keen and commanding. Throwing back his cloak, he laid his hand on the hilt of a sword that had hung concealed by his side. They did not dare to move. Sam sat wide-mouthed staring at him dumbly.
"But I am the real Strider, fortunately," he said, looking down on them with his face softened by a sudden smile. "I am Aragorn, son of Arathorn; and if by my life or death I can save you, I will."
Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 23, 2003 4:25:15 pm PST #831 of 3902
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Hm, that's a good point. In the movies, the good guys (other than the Fellowship) are represented by a country run by a madman and a country run by a guy with a death wish and no tactical skills. Not much to root for, when you think about it.
And Jess pegs the reason I'm a Canadian sympathizer rather than U.S. or Great Britian.
Beverly - Dec 23, 2003 4:30:29 pm PST #832 of 3902
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
In the scene in FotR, Bilbo leaves Bag End, and Gandalf reminds him, "Bilbo, the ring is still in your pocket," and Bilbo lets it fall on the floor. Gandalf goes to pick it up, and sees the Eye of Sauron. However long it is later, Frodo comes in and the ring is still on the floor and Gandalf is muttering by the fire.
He hasn't let himself touch it, but he has been affected by its pull. And then he holds out the envelope and seals it away so neither he nor Frodo has to touch it, bids Frodo hide it away until Gandalf can return from his fact-finding mission.
It was obvious Gandalf was tempted, but managed to resist. On his return from Minas Tirth, when Frodo tries to give him the ring, Gandalf's recoil is plain, and he still refuses to even touch the ring. "Do not tempt me with this ring!"
Galadriel reaches toward it, but stops herself from touching it, also.
Movie-Faramir didn't touch it either, using his sword's point rather than bare skin to get a better look at it. For that matter, neither did Boromir or anyone else, save Bilbo and Gollum, and Sam in RotK. I think the movie makers did a good job of showing the characters resisting the pull of the ring.
Elena - Dec 23, 2003 4:46:08 pm PST #833 of 3902
Thanks for all the fish.
The passage Jess quotes brings up something that I feel was lost in the movie (though perhaps not necessary) - the massive suspicion that the Hobbits had toward Strider. (yes, I know they had a few lines about it in the film, but it wasn't anywhere near as pronounced) I remember the first time I read the book I actually gasped aloud when it was revealed that Strider was the heir the throne of Gondor.