Well, it's just good to know that when the chips are down and things look grim you'll feed off the girl who loves you to save your own ass!

Xander ,'Chosen'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Aims - Dec 23, 2003 9:47:09 am PST #789 of 3902
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Injury, scmingury. He is the Jackie Chan of the Elves. He wouldda done it had they asked.

ETA: Broken rib owie. Ok, minus the injury though.


§ ita § - Dec 23, 2003 9:48:02 am PST #790 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He is the Jackie Chan of the Elves. He wouldda done it had they asked.

Well, he re-evaluated his relationship to his wellbeing, so maybe not.

laughs her own ass off at her fangirly self


Aims - Dec 23, 2003 9:49:01 am PST #791 of 3902
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Well, he re-evaluated his relationship to his wellbeing

There's a lesson to be learned here, ita.


§ ita § - Dec 23, 2003 9:52:09 am PST #792 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There's a lesson to be learned here, ita.

Having never broken a bone, much less my back, I think me and my wellbeing are getting along pretty well.


Aims - Dec 23, 2003 9:53:20 am PST #793 of 3902
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Well, that...then...but....

*sigh*

Plllbbbttt....


§ ita § - Dec 23, 2003 9:53:43 am PST #794 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

goes back to her fangurlish giggliness


DavidS - Dec 23, 2003 9:53:54 am PST #795 of 3902
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Oh, I forgot a tidbit I liked from the Weapons and Warfare book.

Pippin is wearing Faramir's boyhood armor in Minas Tirith. Merry is wearing Theoden's childhood armor. I don't know if that's from the book or just backstory that the costumers came up with, but I like it, especially with the Merry and Faramir parallels.


JohnSweden - Dec 23, 2003 10:40:33 am PST #796 of 3902
I can't even.

What I am saying is that the reason Film!Faramir is ultimately able to release Frodo to return to his mission is because he does not take the Ring for himself.

Sean, I agree that is an important distinction, but the "ultimately" part and the "sending the ring to daddy so he will be pleased" part are heretical to bug me no end about the treatment of Faramir in the film. He does resist the direct temptation of the ring, although I would argue by succumbing to his weakest character flaw, his desire for his father's approval, rather than power lust. The insidiousness of the ring is that it goes for everyone's weak points. However, I agree that not grabbing the ring counts for something. Just not enough to satisfy me as true enough to the character.


JohnSweden - Dec 23, 2003 10:49:18 am PST #797 of 3902
I can't even.

tinaf, those guys are a mix of various enemies of Gondor from different locations, but mostly they are the Haradrim, men of Harad, a southern kingdom and old enemies of Gondor.

ETA: also Easterlings "A general name for the races of Men from the unknown East of Middle-earth, who were a constant foe of the Free Peoples, from the treachery of Ulfang in the Nirnaeth Arnoediad of the First Age to their frequent attacks against Gondor in the Third Age."

Also see the Dagor Bragollach, but now we're getting deep deep into Tolkien geekery detail. (I can't type trivia, this is important stuff!)


tina f. - Dec 23, 2003 11:04:10 am PST #798 of 3902

oooh thanks for the info Jsw - I went ahead with Men of the East based on spotty recollections- friend was very confused by their non-orcish-ness - she thought only the orcs were bad. It's always interesting to find out what non-readers see vs. what you see.