Hey! Come merry dol! derry dol! My darling!
My love for me now / Ain't hard to explain / The Hero of Canton / The man they call...ME.
Jayne ,'Jaynestown'
LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".
Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
Cindy - Dec 22, 2003 4:18:20 pm PST #677 of 3902
Nobody
Volans - Dec 22, 2003 4:18:56 pm PST #678 of 3902
move out and draw fire
Wow, that'll be easy to make into a movie.
And hey, Crichton! You're against the wall too, bub.
You one of the people who wanted to see that freak Tom Bombadil?
Dude, Goldberry was HOT!
Seriously, no no no. Tim Benzadrino was the first major section I'd cut. I'm also about 50% in favor of cutting the Scouring.
Cindy - Dec 22, 2003 4:18:57 pm PST #679 of 3902
Nobody
(Was really glad Tom Bombadil didn't make the movies, as he wasn't even needed in the books.)
Jessica - Dec 22, 2003 4:20:43 pm PST #680 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
Heh, and I'm one of those freaky people who felt that PJ's interpretation of Faramir is supported by the text.
I disagree, but love Movie!Faramir for himself anyway. I think he works far better onscreen than Tolkien's Faramir would have.
Volans - Dec 22, 2003 4:25:41 pm PST #681 of 3902
move out and draw fire
Yay! Faramir battles!
Agreeing with Jess, on both points. But the watering-down of the heroes and the watering-down of the bad guys is one of my major arguments with the movies.
Sean K - Dec 22, 2003 4:27:50 pm PST #682 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I disagree, but love Movie!Faramir for himself anyway. I think he works far better onscreen than Tolkien's Faramir would have.
I'm very much in the minority (perhaps even a minority of one) on this, but I do feel that way.
Yes, in the book, Faramir does the whole "even were I to find this thing lying by the road, I would not take this thing," but Movie Faramir never does try to take the ring from Frodo, so I don't really feel that part of book canon was violated.
But again, I know I'm in a very tiny minority on this, and have no illusions, or even really desire, about trying to convince anybody else of my rightness.
But I am right...
DavidS - Dec 22, 2003 4:28:05 pm PST #683 of 3902
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Speaking of Faramir, Emmett doesn't really have the words which would in effect express "That is Wrong Unkind Behavior" so when he saw Denethor wishing Faramir had died, Emmett kept muttering under his breath with some vehemence "What an idiot!"
Volans - Dec 22, 2003 4:33:00 pm PST #684 of 3902
move out and draw fire
I may need the LAistas to do a little...job...for me. Seems my friend has gotten himself two tickets for the LOTR Oscar party. Now, I only need to disappear his wife and take her place. Any volunteers?
Jessica - Dec 22, 2003 4:33:34 pm PST #685 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
Yes, in the book, Faramir does the whole "even were I to find this thing lying by the road, I would not take this thing," but Movie Faramir never does try to take the ring from Frodo, so I don't really feel that part of book canon was violated.
Lifting the Ring off of Frodo's neck with the tip of his sword doesn't count as "trying to take it" to you?
Seriously though, it's not even that. It's that in the book, Faramir is Tolkien!Sue, and in the movie, he's a three-dimensional character. He has desires and flaws and motivations that go deeper than I Am The Very Model Of A Third-Age Numenorean.
(And Faramir is the only character I think this kind of writing works for -- giving Aragorn a character arc just confused me.)
Katie M - Dec 22, 2003 4:40:22 pm PST #686 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Seriously, no no no. Tim Benzadrino was the first major section I'd cut. I'm also about 50% in favor of cutting the Scouring.
I think it would've really helped the Frodo-to-the-Havens thing if they'd kept the Scouring. I mean, I understand why they didn't, and I don't know if there would've been any way to keep it in. Probably not. But as it was, it was about ten minutes where it was Frodo Is Dead, No Wait, He's Fine And Happy, Well Maybe He's A Bit Alienated, Oh Hey He's Completely Incapable Of Enjoying Life. Not enough time to sell the impact everything had on Frodo.