I still don't recognise the Gondor theme. I meant to pay attention, but I got lost in the movie.

It was such a relief when they'd cut to something like Sam/Frodo, which, although sad, didn't hit me where I live. Arwen was good for that too. And since we'd spent the extendeds mocking Aragorn for being a poncy elf-wannabee, any of his sadnesses didn't tug me too hard.

I love the Gondor theme. Not quite as much as the Rohan theme, but probably about as much as the Fellowship theme. And "Into the West" is just perfect. "Safe in my arms, you're only sleeping..." *sob*

I liked Arwen showing up at the end, which was good, because I wanted to want her to be there, you know? It did bug me a bit that she looked so young. I always liked the idea that she is so much older than Aragorn, and yet can't help falling in love with him when she sees the man he has become. I liked her turning back because of her son. However, the whole "Arwen's fate is now tied to the fate of the Ring"--what? Excuse me? Makes no sense at all, and I didn't think it added anything to the story. Was it supposed to give Aragorn some added incentive to win the war? Because, hello, weight of the world already upon his shoulders. I did like that Elrond was crying, though. I thought Hugo Weaving was excellent in ROTK, after finding him too campy and creepy in TTT.

Elrond was totally cute.

Which I didn't expect.

Aside from these actors, who are Just the Best Ever?

I think I'm in love with Fran Walsh and Philipa Boyens, for the words. The ones they lifted from Tolkein they chose well, and the ones they paraphrased? Also good.

Just the Best Ever besides the actors?

Richard Taylor. He is the bomb dot com.

It was all too much to take in - with the crying and the having chills that lasted like 5 minutes straight (Hugest chill moments: first time we get a full bottom to top view of Minas Tirith and the when we see the first full assemblage of the Riders and all those freaking horses). I couldn't focus like I wanted to on the swords, the saddles, the clothes, and the various WETA-ness of it all.

Overall I loved it, including the writing, but there were two places where I wished they had gone with Tolkien rather than colloquializing the speech:

First, the exchange between Eowyn and the WitchKing: I've always loved, "Fool! No living man may slay the Nazgul!" "No living man am I! There stands before you a woman!" -- the colloquial "I am no man!" just didn't cut it for me.

Second, Frodo at the Cracks: Another well-beloved line is the "I have come. But I do not choose now to do what I came to do." I loved the matter-of-factness of it. "Yep, struggled all that way, got here...changed my mind. Sorry, Sammy!" -- this all got shortened to "The Ring is Mine!" and Elijah looking all evil and possessed (which he did really well, don't get me wrong, but I wanted the Tolkien "changed my mind" line in there.)

Right now I'm trying to decide if I should keep packing or go see the movie...my precioussss....again. Must. Keep. Filling. Boxes....

Edited because it's been so long since I've posted I've forgotten how the ding-dang spoiler tags work.

Minas Tirith looked just right. Tolkien didn't give me many clear pictures, but Minas Tirith has been in my head for a few years, and PJ's people did a good copy of it.

Maytree, re: the first part of your white font...

I wanted to hear the whole thing:

"Begone, foul dwimmerlaik, Lord of Carrion, leave the dead in peace."

"Come not between the Nazgul and his prey, or he will not slay thee in they turn, but bear thee away to the Houses of Lamentation, where thy flesh shall be devoured and thy shrivelled mind be left naked before the Lidless Eye."

"Do what you will, but I will hinder it, if I can."

"Thou fool. No living man may hinder me."

"But no living man am I. You look upon a woman. Eowyn, Eomund's daughter. You stand between me and my lord and kin. Begone, if you be not deathless, for living or dark undead, I will smite you if you touch him."

I was a tad upset that they trunkated one of the greatest dialog exchanges ever written, but again, PJ did so much right, I can live with it.

(And yes, I may have gotten parts of it wrong, but I pulled that exchange from memory.)

Having seen the documentaries on the miniatures where you see Minas Tirith, I thought I had a pretty good idea of what to expect - but it just took my breath away. From the camera coming up over the ridge from the bottom and just going up and up and up. Then to Gandalf riding through the streets the whole sequence was better and so much more realistic than I could have imagined.

Another thing I thought I was prepared for was the landscape. How much more beautiful could NZ look than in FotR? Once you've seen one snow capped mountain range, you've seen em all - right? Uhm. Wrong.

Unexpected sobbing moment? Sure, I cried at the reunion scene - but the harder Gandalf laughed, the harder I cried.

I *know* I was getting looks. And I don't care. Stoopid lame crowd.

Sean, I wanted the whole thing too, but I knew that wasn't going to happen. I just didn't realize how thoroughly truncated the dialog in question was going to be.

As you say, it's one of those "Hey, if that's the worst I can come up with to complain about, life's pretty good," things. I think on balance PJ and the crew added more stuff I liked than left out stuff I wanted, so I feel a bit ungrateful grumbling...but still. Must. Pick. Nits. (More. Fun. Than. Packing!)