Ten percent of nothing is -- let me do the math here -- nothing into nothing, carry the --

Jayne ,'Serenity'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Kathy A - Dec 20, 2003 6:19:32 am PST #459 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

TOR.n's got a link to a new TV commercial for RotK up. It's one of the "critics' best" reviews, and it has only three voiceovers: Gandalf's "We come to it at last..." , Mippin's "We'll see each other again." "I don't know." , and Frodo's "I'm glad to be with you, Sam, here at the end of all things." BTW, I never noticed that it's a neat inversion of the book line, "I'm glad you're here with me..." and changes the tenor by somehow making them more equals, IMO .


Beverly - Dec 20, 2003 6:38:08 am PST #460 of 3902
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

"I'm glad to be with you..."

I did, in fact, notice the change, and thought Frodo (or Jackson-Walsh-Boyens) was going for a deliberate acknowledgement of Sam as a partner, without whom they wouldn't have succeeded.

Also, maybe I blinked, but the confrontation on the street in Minas Tirith of Shadowfax, bearing Gandalf and Pippin, skidding to a halt before the grounded, wing-bated Nazgul scene from the trailers wasn't in the movie, was it?


Kathy A - Dec 20, 2003 7:04:08 am PST #461 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Nope, and neither was the Aragorn and Legolas scene, where Leggy has his hand on Aragorn's shoulder and holding his bow in that suggestive manner (although the shot of Aragorn falling to his knees is still in the new TV ad).

I just got done watching a good 15-minute (or so) long behind the scenes documentary. (Quicktime required.) Some good clips, and the actors mostly have interesting stuff to say.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 20, 2003 7:08:17 am PST #462 of 3902
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

So I didn't miss that! Thanks, Kathy-- I thought I'd blinked. Was the Sam cradling notdead!Frodo scene slightly different in the movie, too? I didn't notice spider-web in the poster.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2003 7:09:44 am PST #463 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Am-Chau, that poster isn't notdead!Frodo in Cirith Ungol -- it's reallytired!Frodo as they climb up Mount Doom/


brenda m - Dec 20, 2003 7:12:08 am PST #464 of 3902
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Heh. I was driving to Chicago last night, and one of the roadside stands had a letter burned out. So what was left was 4-foot-high, red neon letters saying FIRE ORKS. Took me aback, I can tell you.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 20, 2003 7:12:18 am PST #465 of 3902
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Oh! Thanks, ita. Heavens, I'm stupid today. Or was when I looked at the poster.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2003 7:16:30 am PST #466 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That scene for me reminded me so much of the poster that I was tense until it finally reached the right angle.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 20, 2003 7:21:56 am PST #467 of 3902
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

It was *so* close. So much so that I thought "oh, I've just misrembered the poster." And got sucked up in the story and didn't notice the moment it reached the right angle.


Beverly - Dec 20, 2003 7:40:49 am PST #468 of 3902
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Evil DH leaned over when Frodo, Sam and Gollum reached Minas Morgul and Frodo started to walk toward the gargoyles, and whispered, "Okay. So. She's a dog." And when Sam reached Kirith Ungol and hestitated, apparently intimidated by its forbidding look, "This could be cozy. A plant and an uplight..."