And after watching the horsey bit, I am convinced that Viggo is a kook, but that the world needs more kooks just like him.
Yeah, that's my take. Also, he inspires tremendous loyalty and affection which you have to respect.
Joyce: You don't think it's too obvious? I think I look like I have a cat on my head. Buffy: But a very well groomed cat. Joyce: Well that's a comfort.
'Bring On The Night'
LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".
Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
DavidS - Jan 05, 2005 8:41:55 am PST #3543 of 3902
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
§ ita § - Jan 05, 2005 8:44:08 am PST #3544 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
he inspires tremendous loyalty and affection which you have to respect.
Nah, you don't have to. I've seen some nasty pieces of work that can do that too. Not that I even remotely think Viggo is a bad person. He seems to be nobility made flesh.
Just that adoration doesn't have an intrinsic good or evil setting. It depends on who, and how, and to what end.
DavidS - Jan 05, 2005 8:48:13 am PST #3545 of 3902
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Nah, you don't have to.
Okay, you don't have to. But in this instance, I don't think he's using his kooky charisma for evil.
beekaytee - Jan 05, 2005 8:49:45 am PST #3546 of 3902
Compassionately intolerant
I've loved every Scot I've ever met. Or heard. Period. I'm free-lovin' that way.
erm, not in the carnal sense of love...cahuugh
And I ita with ita's notion of the pedestal toppling in behind the scenes dvd details. And yet? I love every last droplet of info I can squeeze from them.
My defense from having movies completely ruined for me was quiting the behind the scenes stuff after being an extra in one film. I realized then that paradise often ceases to be paradise if you live there.
beekaytee - Jan 05, 2005 8:53:13 am PST #3547 of 3902
Compassionately intolerant
He seems to be nobility made flesh.
Just that adoration doesn't have an intrinsic good or evil setting. It depends on who, and how, and to what end.
Yes and yes.
After nearly gagging over the opportunity to work with Daniel Ellsberg (Pentagon Papers/Watergate guy for the young among us), I developed a fairly thick crust around his quirk/intention. LOVE his work, not so much his ego.
Noble outcomes? Can't help but adore them.
eta: and as previously stated, the horsey stuff nearly did me in allergy-wise. Not sure why that kind of kindness is so deliciously painful.
JohnSweden - Jan 05, 2005 5:44:23 pm PST #3548 of 3902
I can't even.
Sean Connery's accent is so much his own, though, and quite different from Billy's. Whatever reaction I have to Connery's (and they are all good), it doesn't make me squee!
Connery's from Edinburgh, and Billy's a Glaswegian. East coast/west coast -- big difference.
Frankenbuddha - Jan 06, 2005 2:01:43 am PST #3549 of 3902
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Connery's from Edinburgh, and Billy's a Glaswegian. East coast/west coast -- big difference.
Do the accents in the British Isles sound as different from each other to the natives as they do to us (and by us, I mean me)? Because for a country the size of a mid-level U.S. state, the accents seem to vary for more extremely than in the U.S.
dcp - Jan 06, 2005 4:27:10 am PST #3550 of 3902
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.
Yes, perhaps even more so.
One of my high school teachers was from Northern Ireland. He claimed he could usually tell where someone else came from within the six counties to within about three miles.
JohnSweden - Jan 06, 2005 7:59:30 am PST #3551 of 3902
I can't even.
Because for a country the size of a mid-level U.S. state, the accents seem to vary for more extremely than in the U.S.
Well, yeah. Country = old+small. When north america was still a wilderness, most of the population of Britain was required by law to live where they lived and stay there. The USA is by definition a country of people who moved around.
Yes, perhaps even more so.
Definitely.
One of my high school teachers was from Northern Ireland. He claimed he could usually tell where someone else came from within the six counties to within about three miles.
This isn't that unusual in Britain. Remember the My Fair Lady bit about identifying what neighbourhood in London someone was from, by their accent? Not hyperbole. My father, not an educated, or linguistically-oriented man, can say fairly accurately where someone is from in Britain from a brief conversation, and he hasn't lived there for 30 years.
The film hobbits having such differing accents, particularly Billy, Dom and the two americans was a source of amusement that I had to file under suspension of disbelief.
-t - Jan 06, 2005 8:40:19 am PST #3552 of 3902
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
The film hobbits having such differing accents, particularly Billy, Dom and the two americans was a source of amusement that I had to file under suspension of disbelief
But Frodo and Sam are different classes, and Frodo isn't from, um, is the town Bag End or is that the name of the house? Anyway, he's from somewhere else. As is, I think, Pippin. Or is it Merry? Or is it both of them?
Oh my memory is so very bad. But they aren't all from the same little corner of the Shire, ultimately, I don't think.