Willow ,'Showtime'
Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
I'm not sure if I missed it or it's just not in the movie. In the previews we see Pippin sitting on Gandalf's horse in Rohan. He leans over and Merry has his hand. Merry says to him "We shall see the shire again, Pippin" and then the horse takes off.
Am I just missing where they show that or is it not in the movies?
But, they didn't change Merry's line back from the TE version, "Are you going to leave me?" to what he actually says (if you read Dom's lips), "Are you going to bury me?" I guess since they didn't put in the healing of Faramir and Merry at the HoH, they decided to leave the line as is.
The cast commentary is pretty enjoyable--I've listened to the first two-thirds of it, and Dom and Billy are keeping up the humor, as usual. Andy Serkis was recorded solo, and EW is keeping Astin in check, so you don't hear as much blathering as on TTT (although he still is whining a bit about being "so fat"). John Noble is very soft-spoken, so you have to concentrate to hear him, but he is interesting to listen to. Dom and Billy have developed a funny bit where the screen will have a Frodo/Sam moment, and they'll say, "Oh, Elijah had a tough time here, but he'll tell you about it. Elijah?" and the editor will follow it with EW's comments, recorded separately. Lawrence Makaore is a wonderful addition to the commentary, with great stuff about the difficulties of filming in prosthetics.
Cereal to add--
Beathen, Billy and Dom talk about that in the commentary--apparently, PJ and the writers decided to go with a more vulnerable farewell scene. It was filmed during the pickups that last summer.
I can't wait to get my own copy (Christmas) and sit and listen to all the commentaries. Sometimes they make the movie MORE enjoyable!
although he still is whining a bit about being "so fat"
Have you read his autobiography? There is some good stuff in there, but it's mostly about his selfishness and "poor me, I'm ONLY getting $250,000 for a year and a half of work. I'm so fat and it affects my confidence. Mememememe..." Boo. Fucking. Hoo. Trying living on barely $30,000 a year - THEN you can complain.
PJ and the writers decided to go with a more vulnerable farewell scene.
The scene in the previews seemed more vulnerable to me because you could see the tears in Merry & Pippin's eyes.
One thing I'd forgotten was how hot Frodo looks as he gives in to the Ring. Great, I've got an evil Hobbit kink.
Great, I've got an evil Hobbit kink.
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Oh, all right, fair cop. Just because I really enjoy that scene where Frodo's lying there tied up and shirtless. Poor skinny boy. Needs somebody to feed him. Though Sam would kill me if I tried anything.
One thing I'd forgotten was how hot Frodo looks as he gives in to the Ring.
You're not the only one who thinks this!
Finally seen it. Here's how I think the characters fared:
There seemed to be a lot of recutting. I will need to watch the theatrical to see, but it felt like some things happened later in the EE. Perhaps merely because we'd been sitting there for hours. Perhaps reordering. Things like putting finding Merry after healing Eowyn was just weird and frelled the timeline.
Some impact was lost, like the Shelob moment I mentioned upthread, and Aragorn coming off the boat -- but there's no surprise left for us, so it didn't need to be as much of a moment.
Things that I realise I should have noticed about the theatrical: the disappearance of a) the palantir, b) Aragorn's pendant and c) Gandalf's staff. Oops.
So far, I rank the theatricals FotR, RotK, TTT, and the EEs TTT, FotR, RotK. I think that's because RotK achieved such a huge emotional impact and it didn't get that much more (continued...)