I just think you're freakin' out 'cause you have to fight someone prettier than you.

Dawn ,'The Killer In Me'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Connie Neil - Aug 17, 2004 5:11:30 am PDT #2934 of 3902
brillig

Denethor was Greatness Fallen. He had pretty much single-handedly stood between the forces of good and evil for decades. In the movie he's just a nut job who hates his younger son for not dying in his brother's place. He actually would have been a smart choice to send to Rivendell, especially since Boromir was managing the defense of Osgiliath and all.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 17, 2004 5:17:37 am PDT #2935 of 3902
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

and I think that Denethor is Strider's other mirror

I think Denethor also acts as a mirror figure of Gandalf was well - the Gandalf who acts as mentor (specifically to Boromir).

Right. There is burnign yourself on a funeral pyre like some strange pagan king, and then there is having your dress catch fire and leaping off the end of a heliport like the lighting of an Olympic flame in reverse. Guess which one has the bizarro dignity?

bing bing bing

Exactly why it earned a snort of derision from me even the first time around.

eta there's not even hippo dignity in how movie Denethor went out.


beekaytee - Aug 17, 2004 5:28:26 am PDT #2936 of 3902
Compassionately intolerant

No hippo dignity.

And the squishy eating scene gave me the quease. But I suppose that was intentional. "Look! He's crazy...he's got bad table manners!


Beverly - Aug 17, 2004 8:33:06 am PDT #2937 of 3902
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

far, far better then the firey plunge off the heliport o'doom.

Still. Can't get over the line from A Bug's Life, "Flaminnng--DEATH!"


Kathy A - Aug 17, 2004 8:50:46 am PDT #2938 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

My co-worker returned my DVD of RotK just now, and had some questions.

"Why did that little guy with the curly hair and blue eyes have to get on the boat?"
"Wasn't that dark-haired girl supposed to be dead?"
"Now, that creepy little jerk, he fell into the volcano with the ring and died, right?"

She really got none of the names, even after seeing all three films, but she did love the scenery, the battles, "the animals" (I'm guessing she meant the Mumakil here), and "that creepy little jerk" (Gollum). As a complete newbie and non-fantasy-geek, she's probably the epitome of the filmgoer that the studio was afraid "wouldn't get it," but she loved the series nonetheless, and wants to spend a weekend doing a marathon viewing of all three in a row when she has some time to herself.


Beverly - Aug 17, 2004 8:52:59 am PDT #2939 of 3902
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

"Why did that little guy with the curly hair and blue eyes have to get on the boat?"

Oh deer loward. I'm actually thinking about using this as a tagline. Somebody stop me.


libkitty - Aug 17, 2004 9:24:45 am PDT #2940 of 3902
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

That was what book-Denethor had, above all: dignity.

Yes. Still didn't much like Denethor in the book, but HATED him in the movie. But, loved his eldest son so much more in the movie, that perhaps it evens out.

So, I may be really behind on this, but I just saw The Bourne Supremacy this weekend. Did anyone else notice Eomer (Karl Urban) doing a wonderful job as the bad guy ?


Beverly - Aug 17, 2004 9:27:49 am PDT #2941 of 3902
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Of course I noticed! I noticed the lack of funny hair and armoured shoulders! And the lack of an expression other than pissy. Sigh. I bet he has a nice smile, but I wouldn't know. I've never seen it.


Nutty - Aug 17, 2004 10:05:21 am PDT #2942 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Beverly, you need DVD extras. There are interviews. You even get to see people without their funny wigs on.

"Why did that little guy with the curly hair and blue eyes have to get on the boat?"

To be fair, the movie didn't do all that good a job with explaining why Frodo went. He sort of had some PTSD, and some arthritis, but mostly it was "Gandalf said so". I wish it would make clearer how hard it is for Frodo to live in the world he helped save; for one thing, it would make that Galadriel line in TTT ("The quest will take his life") actually true.


sumi - Aug 17, 2004 10:20:10 am PDT #2943 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

If you are reluctant to buy the EEs -- you can certainly netflix the two extra discs.