You're not gonna jokey-rhyme your way out of this one.

Willow ,'Sleeper'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


dcp - Aug 11, 2004 12:08:07 pm PDT #2864 of 3902
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

From Sam's family tree in RotK Appendix C:

Sam's oldest daughter Elanor married Fastred of Greenholm. "They removed to the Westmarch, a country then newly settled (being a gift of King Elessar) between the Far Downs and the Tower Hills. From them came the Fairbairns of the Towers, Wardens of Westmarch, who inherited the Red Book, and made several copies with various notes and later additions."

Sam's third daughter Goldilocks is the one who married Faramir Took, son of Pippin.


§ ita § - Aug 11, 2004 12:59:31 pm PDT #2865 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can't close my sap tag. Because I'm a little misty at the idea of Pippin naming his kid Faramir.


Connie Neil - Aug 11, 2004 1:03:05 pm PDT #2866 of 3902
brillig

Which of them moved to Gondor for good once they got real old?


Katie M - Aug 11, 2004 1:03:55 pm PDT #2867 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Merry and Pippin both. If I remember correctly, they went to Rohan, were there when Eomer died, and then moved to Gondor until they died themselves. (And possibly were buried in Rath Dinen?)


Liese S. - Aug 11, 2004 1:49:02 pm PDT #2868 of 3902
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I lurve all the baby-naming. I may need to name my (as-yet-unforseen) child Faramir, but only after Pippin's kid.


§ ita § - Aug 11, 2004 1:51:23 pm PDT #2869 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I had wanted to name a kid of mine Pip, but that was from Dickens. And then read LotR and I extended it to Pippin, and then I developed a crush on Scottie Pippen.

It was too late to use it as a name and retain my pride then. It's so much worse now.


sumi - Aug 11, 2004 3:13:57 pm PDT #2870 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

Much much worse.


libkitty - Aug 11, 2004 4:28:54 pm PDT #2871 of 3902
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Pippin is such a nice name, too. Unusual, but not too weird. Short, although I don't think teachers still make you write your name for punishment. I never did that, but my uncle did. Short names were a must for his kids.

Love how I casually wander off topic?


beekaytee - Aug 11, 2004 6:18:07 pm PDT #2872 of 3902
Compassionately intolerant

Despite my fervent Pippin love ala LOTR, I still get ear wormed with Pippin: The Musical! 8 out of 10 times I hear the name.

And the men go marching...out into the fray...conquering the enemy and carrying the day...Hark the blood is pounding in our ears!...Jubilation! I can hear a grateful nation cheer.

Pippin. Sit Down!

I suppose that bit fits nicely regardless.


Kathy A - Aug 11, 2004 6:20:46 pm PDT #2873 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Not only did Merry and Pippin both spend their last years in Gondor, but after Aragorn died, their tombs were moved to lie on either side of his.

I love the details about the different copies made of Bilbo/Frodo's original writings, including the "Thain's Book" that was copied in the Shire, and brought to Minas Tirith by Pippin when he left the Shire for good. This was the one that included the translations from the Elvish by Bilbo, and most of the notes that were included into the various copies by Sam and Merry after Frodo sailed West. Barahir, Faramir and Eowyn's grandson, added some stuff, and a final note was made about Arwen's end and the sailing of Gimli and Legolas.