What should I do, then? Send her a gift? Sacrifice? … Unholy fruit basket?

Angel ,'Just Rewards (2)'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


JohnSweden - Jun 01, 2004 1:56:50 pm PDT #2697 of 3902
I can't even.

From the Encyclopedia of Arda:

"High title and surname of Aragorn son of Arathorn. It was long foretold that he would take this name; it was given to him in Lórien by Galadriel. She granted him a gift of a green stone set in a silver brooch in the shape of an eagle as he and the Company of the Ring left her land (on 16 February III 3019). 'In this hour,' she said, 'take the name that was foretold for you, Elessar, the Elfstone of the house of Elendil!'

When Aragorn took up the kingship of Gondor, he assumed the name Elessar, and later references to him take the form 'King Elessar'."

Away from the books, or I'd dig more.

ETA: A couple of quotes:

III 294: "... before them came walking slow the Lord Aragorn. He was clad in black mail, girt with silver, and he wore a long mantle of pure white clasped at the throat with a great jewel of green that shone from afar"

I 493 "... as she held it up the gem flashed like the sun shining through the leaves of spring. 'This stone I gave to Celebrian my daughter, and she to hers; and now it comes to you as a token of hope.'"


MechaKrelboyne - Jun 01, 2004 3:45:39 pm PDT #2698 of 3902
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious

You got it in one. Orcs are French

And that's how they know what a menu is, and why meat should be back on it. Next to wine and stinky cheese. Gothcha.

'Ah, mes amis! Ze meat, she is back on ze menu, non? Honh Honh!'

Yeah, that's all I want to say.


Consuela - Jun 01, 2004 3:55:05 pm PDT #2699 of 3902
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

'This stone I gave to Celebrian my daughter, and she to hers; and now it comes to you as a token of hope.'

Galadriel to Celebrian to Arwen. Excellent.


JohnSweden - Jun 01, 2004 3:57:21 pm PDT #2700 of 3902
I can't even.

Next to wine and stinky cheese. Gothcha.

So orcs are Christopher Ward?

t /obscure Canadian reference


DXMachina - Jun 01, 2004 4:04:23 pm PDT #2701 of 3902
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Better than Burt Ward. (Notice lately how a lot of the conversations on the board end up being about one Robin or another?)


Beverly - Jun 01, 2004 9:02:52 pm PDT #2702 of 3902
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Um, isn't one of the meanings of Elessar "hope"? Or am I remembering that wrong?


helentm - Jun 01, 2004 10:15:40 pm PDT #2703 of 3902
Religion isn't the cause of wars. It's the excuse. - Christopher Brookmyre

The question that JRRT never got around to answering was where the heck the Eye was planning on wearing the Ring since it is, in fact, just an eye.

I've reread the books, and can't find any reference to Sauron being an eye. I think 'the eye of Sauron' was meant to be a metaphor, rather than a literal enormous flaming eyeball. Anyone got any supporting/contradicting quotes?


Ouise - Jun 02, 2004 3:43:20 am PDT #2704 of 3902
Socks are a running theme throughout the series. They are used as symbols of freedom, redemption and love.

Um, isn't one of the meanings of Elessar "hope"? Or am I remembering that wrong?

No, that was his other other name. Estel? Something like that. It was his childhood name, I think.

I really enjoyed the extra layer of meaning in the script's use of the word "hope", especially from the elves.


Kate P. - Jun 02, 2004 4:17:05 am PDT #2705 of 3902
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

ELROND: "I bring hope to the world of men."

ARAGORN: "I keep none for myself."


Nutty - Jun 02, 2004 4:20:19 am PDT #2706 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

...typical. The guys steal the women's best lines.

Although, taken as epigrammatic of a mother on her deathbed, it's sort of creepy, no? All for you Boyo! I do it all for you! I sacrifice everythign for your career!!

Gilraen, the first stage mother.