Um, isn't one of the meanings of Elessar "hope"? Or am I remembering that wrong?
River: 1001. 1002. Simon: River... River: Shh. I'm counting between the lightning and the thunder to see if the storm is coming or going. .1005
'The Message'
LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".
Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
Beverly - Jun 01, 2004 9:02:52 pm PDT #2702 of 3902
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
helentm - Jun 01, 2004 10:15:40 pm PDT #2703 of 3902
Religion isn't the cause of wars. It's the excuse. - Christopher Brookmyre
The question that JRRT never got around to answering was where the heck the Eye was planning on wearing the Ring since it is, in fact, just an eye.
I've reread the books, and can't find any reference to Sauron being an eye. I think 'the eye of Sauron' was meant to be a metaphor, rather than a literal enormous flaming eyeball. Anyone got any supporting/contradicting quotes?
Ouise - Jun 02, 2004 3:43:20 am PDT #2704 of 3902
Socks are a running theme throughout the series. They are used as symbols of freedom, redemption and love.
Um, isn't one of the meanings of Elessar "hope"? Or am I remembering that wrong?
No, that was his other other name. Estel? Something like that. It was his childhood name, I think.
I really enjoyed the extra layer of meaning in the script's use of the word "hope", especially from the elves.
Kate P. - Jun 02, 2004 4:17:05 am PDT #2705 of 3902
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
ELROND: "I bring hope to the world of men."
ARAGORN: "I keep none for myself."
Nutty - Jun 02, 2004 4:20:19 am PDT #2706 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
...typical. The guys steal the women's best lines.
Although, taken as epigrammatic of a mother on her deathbed, it's sort of creepy, no? All for you Boyo! I do it all for you! I sacrifice everythign for your career!!
Gilraen, the first stage mother.
Liese S. - Jun 02, 2004 5:54:02 am PDT #2707 of 3902
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Gilraen, the first stage mother.
Ha! I completely love this.
Also, my laptop's name is Estel. It's a Ranger. My desktop's name is Rosie, because she waits at home.
Katie M - Jun 02, 2004 6:14:03 am PDT #2708 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Also, my laptop's name is Estel. It's a Ranger. My desktop's name is Rosie, because she waits at home.
Okay, that's adorable.
Jeff Mejia - Jun 02, 2004 10:34:31 am PDT #2709 of 3902
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert
I'm sure someone with a more comprehensive knowledge (::Cough::Jeff Mejia::cough::) will come along soon and correct us both. *grin*
There is some confusion whether the green stone that Glorfindel left behind at the Bridge was the same stone that Aragorn wore when he entered Minas Tirith to heal the sick. As John pointed out, the direct quote tends to contradict this (that the stone he wore was the one givne to him by Arwen). There is a mention of the Elf-stone in Unfinished Tales that goes into a much more extensive backstory for the object. IIRC, the stone was manufactured in the First Age (by Feanor himself?) and was in the posession of Beren and Luthien for a time, and it had some mystical healing properties. I don't remember how the stone passed to Galadriel. I'll dig up the reference when I get home tonight.
Liese S. - Jun 02, 2004 10:44:38 am PDT #2710 of 3902
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Okay, that's adorable.
Have I mentioned that I'm a big geek?
I'll dig up the reference when I get home tonight.
But not as big a geek as Jeff Mejia, whom I heart.
Kathy A - Jun 02, 2004 10:51:33 am PDT #2711 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
My mom just got back from visiting her best friend and her husband (who happens to be my godfather) in Dallas. Some of you might remember me posting about Vern--he's the Tolkien geek who has the first editions of both the British and American publications of all of his work (I've fondled his British Hobbit 1st edition, but kept the drool to a minimum). Before she went, I mentioned something about seeing RotK with him, and she just said that they had plenty of other things to do, and she was sure they wouldn't spend 3 1/2 hours watching a movie she's already seen.
Sure enough, Vern got the dvd the day it came out, and they ended up watching it on Thursday. I told her she wasn't going to avoid LotR while she was down there!