eta quotation marks to historical, b/c while the books FEEL like they happened...

Funny you should say that. A friend of mine who is anything but a sentimentalist (and is in fact a history professor in his fifties who was a founder of the Tolkien Society at Michigan State) refused to go with me to the exhibition of props and sets from the movies that we had here in Toronto in '01 and '02. His reason: he didn't want to see things that would make him feel like the events of the War of the Ring didn't actually take place and he felt the exhibit might do that.

I understood his feeling instantly. I still went -- I can separate the movie version from the actual events in my mind, no problem. :)

I know that they filmed the stuff from the "Houses of Healing" and "The Voice of Saruman" and I remember seeing Eomer's grief on finding what he thinks is Eowyn's body and also seeing Merry being sworn to Theoden's service in the trailer -- but not in the films - - so likely to be in the EE. I think that if PJ had meant to film the he would have had Galadriel give Sam the same gift he got in the books.

Ahh! Whitefont disease!

Eomer's shoulders are twice as broad as everyone else's

This is quite true, and through TTT as well (though less obvious). I blame the Rohirrim armor, which has built-in shoulder pads. He's like Joan Collins in 1986, with a little bit less lipstick and probably a lot more hairspray.

Not that I would jump Joan Collins in a dark alley and tie her up for my personal delectation, but, you know.

You know what else wasn't in the movie? The "We shall see the Shire again" line from the trailer. I think it was supposed to be in the scene where Merry says goodbye to Pippin before he rides off to Minas Tirith with Gandalf.

Yes! I want that too.

And sorry for the white-fonted insanity.

Eomer and Vaughn from Alias need to have a frownoff. Even at the coronation he looked highly suspicious of the goings on.

He's like Joan Collins in 1986, with a little bit less lipstick and probably a lot more hairspray. Not that I would jump Joan Collins in a dark alley and tie her up for my personal delectation, but, you know.

I first read that as you _would_ jump Joan Collins, and I was going, y'know in '86, she was probably still pretty jumpable, not like '66 or anything, but still. And I'm thinking you would want to make sure the knots were secure. Very.

make sure the knots were secure. Very.

"No wire hangers!"

You know what else wasn't in the movie? The "We shall see the Shire again" line from the trailer. I think it was supposed to be in the scene where Merry says goodbye to Pippin before he rides off to Minas Tirith with Gandalf.

Yes! I missed that, too. I want that scene, very much. So Billy Boyd can make me cry again.

So Billy Boyd can make me cry again.

I hate him. I really do. Running around in the extras acting all bouncy and chipper and stuff, and goofy Pip in the first two movies.

And then wham. Bring in da angst, bring in da pain.

Bastidge.

You know what else wasn't in the movie? The "We shall see the Shire again" line from the trailer. I think it was supposed to be in the scene where Merry says goodbye to Pippin before he rides off to Minas Tirith with Gandalf.

That was replaced in pickups with "We'll see each other again soon...won't we, Merry?" "I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen." Which I think is better than "We shall see the Shire again." Especially since Merry was so damn pale here.

Someone over at C-O-E mentioned "the way that the Ring floats on a bit of -- oh dear how to put it -- roast Gollum, so that the mountain doesn't explode until after Frodo get pulled up," and someone else made a very good point:

>Which I don't think was a coincidence. I like to think that the Ring was still floating there and sort of "calling out" to Frodo even as he hung there, and the decision to reach up and grab Sam's hand at last (I think that *is* a very conscious decision on Frodo's part) is Frodo's real act of freeing himself from the Ring. In a way, it makes the movie Frodo even stronger in that scene than the book Frodo, who has it totally taken out of his hands by Gollum.