Out. For. A. Walk. ... Bitch.

Spike ,'Selfless'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Volans - Apr 06, 2004 5:04:52 pm PDT #2455 of 3902
move out and draw fire

Gandalf's ring was associated with fire, Galadriel's with water. What was Elrond's?

Gandalf's and Galadriel's ring powers show in various symbols also: Gandalf's fireworks, and use of fiery magicks on Weathertop (and flaming pinecones, although Tolkein didn't know about his ring then); Galadriel's water-fountain-mirror, and the gift-giving of boats on the river.


esse - Apr 06, 2004 6:25:28 pm PDT #2456 of 3902
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

What about the Dwarven rings, or the rings of Men? Not to pelt you with questions--I'm just very curious.


Katie M - Apr 06, 2004 6:39:24 pm PDT #2457 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I don't think any of the other Rings were formally element-associated. The dwarven rings were supposed to be good with gold, supposedly.


Nutty - Apr 07, 2004 7:27:31 am PDT #2458 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think the Dwarf and Man rings were substantially lesser than the Elf rings -- they were, like, pawned off on assistants to make, whereas Celebrimbor made the Elf rings himself. This is why the Elf rings are more powerful, and have names, and not-coincidentally have not led their owners weeping and screaming to Sauron's doorstep, as the other sets of rings have done.

Certainly, in the text, the One Ring changes the user's perception, in addition to making him invisible. It also changes how the user feels about himself -- Samwise the Brave, Gollum the Great -- making him feel more powerful in quasi-benevolent or fishy ways, depending on his own nature. Sam scares the daylights out of the Cirith Unglo people, basically by dint of having the ring (whether or not it's on at any given moment); they see him as something far more powerful than he actually is in physical form.

People tend to flock towards the Ring, or its bearer: several times, when critters attack the Fellowship, they go for Frodo first.


sumi - Apr 07, 2004 7:32:02 am PDT #2459 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

Sauron made the dwarf and man rings specifically to enthrall the users, I think.


sumi - Apr 07, 2004 7:32:18 am PDT #2460 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

What is it with me and the double posting this week?


Stephanie - Apr 07, 2004 8:00:27 am PDT #2461 of 3902
Trust my rage

My brother and I had a big discussion about the Elf rings a few weeks ago. We finally went to Encyclopedia of Arda for lots of really good info about Middle Earth. I think they have info about the rings of the Dwarves and Men.

For example "By the end of the Third Age, Sauron had recovered three of the Seven [Dwarf] Rings to himself, and the other four had been consumed by dragons."

ETA: spelling


Una - Apr 07, 2004 10:14:23 am PDT #2462 of 3902
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.

Heee! Through the lotrquotes LJ community: The Entire Silmarillion... in 1000 words or less.


Katie M - Apr 07, 2004 10:49:42 am PDT #2463 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Ha! That's great. The Quest For The Shiny!


esse - Apr 07, 2004 11:20:29 am PDT #2464 of 3902
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

So the Elvish rings were basically protect-y rings, whereas the Dwarvish rings and rings of Men were made specifically as a way to give Sauron a line in to control them?