Reynolds, I'm a dangerous-minded man on a ship loaded with hurt. Now, why you got me chatting with your peons?
Womack ,'The Message'
LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".
Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
sumi - Apr 06, 2004 7:24:47 am PDT #2448 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!
Katie M - Apr 06, 2004 11:25:36 am PDT #2449 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
esse - Apr 06, 2004 1:47:01 pm PDT #2450 of 3902
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Did Tolkein ever explain, in the books or his letters, why so much power was put into physical objects, rings? And what power did those rings actually hold, anyway? Status symbol?
DavidS - Apr 06, 2004 1:50:05 pm PDT #2451 of 3902
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Did Tolkein ever explain, in the books or his letters, why so much power was put into physical objects, rings?
That's straight from the Norse myths he drew from. See: Ring Cycle by Wagner.
esse - Apr 06, 2004 2:19:55 pm PDT #2452 of 3902
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Well, yes, but I meant contextually.
Kathy A - Apr 06, 2004 3:28:15 pm PDT #2453 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
IIRC, both Galadriel and Elrond were able to use their rings to preserve the "refuge" status of Lothlorien and Rivendell, respectively. Lothlorien was much more secretive and also had that funky time-stands-still thing going on through the power of her ring, and Rivendell also managed to remain hidden from prying eyes due to Elrond's ring. As for Gandalf's, isn't it implied that he used the power of his ring to keep the fires of fighting against Sauron alive? "I am the wielder of the flame of Anor. The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udun!"
Gandalf's ring was associated with fire, Galadriel's with water. What was Elrond's?
Katie M - Apr 06, 2004 3:49:45 pm PDT #2454 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Elrond's was air, I believe.
ETA: No Earth ring, that means. Hmm.
Volans - Apr 06, 2004 5:04:52 pm PDT #2455 of 3902
move out and draw fire
Gandalf's ring was associated with fire, Galadriel's with water. What was Elrond's?
Gandalf's and Galadriel's ring powers show in various symbols also: Gandalf's fireworks, and use of fiery magicks on Weathertop (and flaming pinecones, although Tolkein didn't know about his ring then); Galadriel's water-fountain-mirror, and the gift-giving of boats on the river.
esse - Apr 06, 2004 6:25:28 pm PDT #2456 of 3902
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What about the Dwarven rings, or the rings of Men? Not to pelt you with questions--I'm just very curious.
Katie M - Apr 06, 2004 6:39:24 pm PDT #2457 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
I don't think any of the other Rings were formally element-associated. The dwarven rings were supposed to be good with gold, supposedly.