I always thought the name Serenity had a vaguely funereal sound to it.

Simon ,'Out Of Gas'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2004 1:00:15 pm PST #2206 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"The horses are restless. The men are quiet."

I like that one, actually. Though it did take me until the second viewing to appreciate it.

I know he had dramatically fewer lines in the second two movies, but couldn't PJ have let him still be able to make sense?

I wonder -- which characters have most of the lines Tolkien gave them?


MechaKrelboyne - Mar 04, 2004 1:04:04 pm PST #2207 of 3902
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious

My problem is I get the same vibe listening to him on commentary.

There are only four things I like about Send in The Clones, and two of them are my own jokes at it's expense. Then there's MacGregor's work, which is very much acting into the face of hell itself, and then there's the one little moment where Samuel L Jackson stops trying to act like he's not Samuel L. Jackson.


Jessica - Mar 04, 2004 1:04:48 pm PST #2208 of 3902
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Off the top of my head, with no evidence to back me up, I'd guess Gandalf.


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2004 1:07:05 pm PST #2209 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I get the same vibe listening to him on commentary.

Is he on the TTT commentary? I don't remember him. I do remember feeling very sorry for him on the FotR commentary, since he was evidently out of his comfort-zone and alone to boot.

I'm very interested to see if all his media exposure and seven million movies have seasoned him, and if he's more relaxed on RotK.

I'm very glad there was no Viggo commentary, even though part of me is curious. I'd have had to kill something. He still freaks me out.


MechaKrelboyne - Mar 04, 2004 1:17:38 pm PST #2210 of 3902
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious

Now, that I don't get. Viggo seems all manner of cool to me. And when I heard the 'Convincing Stunt Guy to Headbutt Bloom' story, he jumped to 67 on my all time personal hero list. That was cool.


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2004 1:19:54 pm PST #2211 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Viggo no-ego-speaks-three-languages-LOVES-his-horses-carries-his-sword-in-public-is-adored-by-all-unites-nations-brilliant-photographer-singer-poet-painter Mortensen?

Completely unrelaxing. He makes me tense, and after more than a few minutes of interview I start inching back in my seat.

He's Viggo Sue, and that's creepy.


Nutty - Mar 04, 2004 1:20:25 pm PST #2212 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

flea and I have determined that Orlando has a tiny tiny head compared to most actors. In a head-off, James Van Der Beek would totally squash him.

No doubt Nutty will now appear to clarify exactly how many generations back, and who.

Heh. Being treated as the expert by new converts means I have learned to have an answer for this kind of question. The answer is, many generations, preferably with hand-gestures. Being specific only confuses the newbies.

Is there an Elvish one-drop rule?

My theory is this: if you're mixed, you're elvish by default -- unless and until your first mixed (i.e. not the original pureblood) ancestor chooses to be human. So, Dior was an elf, despite both his parents dying of old age; Earendil and Elwing are sort of vague, guesswork-y cases, but seem to come across as elves; and Elrond and all his children are elves, until such time as some of them decide they're not. Whereas Elros made that one tiny decision in S.A. 0001, and none of his kids over the next 6000 years could get back the elvishness he gave up.

The funny part is, all of these ancestors made their choices (and did not subsequently change their minds) before having kids. What would have happened if, say, Elrond had his 3 elf-kids, and then decided he wanted to be human after all? Would the kids all suddenly become human (and do that funny super-fast-forward aging thing like in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade )? Or --?


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2004 1:22:39 pm PST #2213 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

James Van Der Beek would totally squash him

Dawson's the 800lb gorilla of craniums, though. Who can't he squash?


MechaKrelboyne - Mar 04, 2004 1:28:06 pm PST #2214 of 3902
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious

Viggo no-ego-speaks-three-languages-LOVES-his-horses-carries-his-sword-in-public-is-adored-by-all-unites-nations-brilliant-photographer-singer-poet-painter Mortensen?

Maybe he has flies in his eyes.


Nutty - Mar 04, 2004 1:30:29 pm PST #2215 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think David boreanaz could take a crack at that noggin. I mean, the forehead ridge alone qualifies as an offensive weapon.

(Seriously. I was looking at that big poster-type LOTR photo upthread, and Elijah Wood has a bigger head than Orlando -- and on a smaller body.)

(I don't know why famous people don't all fall over from the weight of their heads. They are like upside down weebles.)