Young Simon: So... how'd the Independents cut us off? Young River: They were using dinosaurs.

'Safe'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


MechaKrelboyne - Mar 04, 2004 1:17:38 pm PST #2210 of 3902
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious

Now, that I don't get. Viggo seems all manner of cool to me. And when I heard the 'Convincing Stunt Guy to Headbutt Bloom' story, he jumped to 67 on my all time personal hero list. That was cool.


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2004 1:19:54 pm PST #2211 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Viggo no-ego-speaks-three-languages-LOVES-his-horses-carries-his-sword-in-public-is-adored-by-all-unites-nations-brilliant-photographer-singer-poet-painter Mortensen?

Completely unrelaxing. He makes me tense, and after more than a few minutes of interview I start inching back in my seat.

He's Viggo Sue, and that's creepy.


Nutty - Mar 04, 2004 1:20:25 pm PST #2212 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

flea and I have determined that Orlando has a tiny tiny head compared to most actors. In a head-off, James Van Der Beek would totally squash him.

No doubt Nutty will now appear to clarify exactly how many generations back, and who.

Heh. Being treated as the expert by new converts means I have learned to have an answer for this kind of question. The answer is, many generations, preferably with hand-gestures. Being specific only confuses the newbies.

Is there an Elvish one-drop rule?

My theory is this: if you're mixed, you're elvish by default -- unless and until your first mixed (i.e. not the original pureblood) ancestor chooses to be human. So, Dior was an elf, despite both his parents dying of old age; Earendil and Elwing are sort of vague, guesswork-y cases, but seem to come across as elves; and Elrond and all his children are elves, until such time as some of them decide they're not. Whereas Elros made that one tiny decision in S.A. 0001, and none of his kids over the next 6000 years could get back the elvishness he gave up.

The funny part is, all of these ancestors made their choices (and did not subsequently change their minds) before having kids. What would have happened if, say, Elrond had his 3 elf-kids, and then decided he wanted to be human after all? Would the kids all suddenly become human (and do that funny super-fast-forward aging thing like in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade )? Or --?


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2004 1:22:39 pm PST #2213 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

James Van Der Beek would totally squash him

Dawson's the 800lb gorilla of craniums, though. Who can't he squash?


MechaKrelboyne - Mar 04, 2004 1:28:06 pm PST #2214 of 3902
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious

Viggo no-ego-speaks-three-languages-LOVES-his-horses-carries-his-sword-in-public-is-adored-by-all-unites-nations-brilliant-photographer-singer-poet-painter Mortensen?

Maybe he has flies in his eyes.


Nutty - Mar 04, 2004 1:30:29 pm PST #2215 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think David boreanaz could take a crack at that noggin. I mean, the forehead ridge alone qualifies as an offensive weapon.

(Seriously. I was looking at that big poster-type LOTR photo upthread, and Elijah Wood has a bigger head than Orlando -- and on a smaller body.)

(I don't know why famous people don't all fall over from the weight of their heads. They are like upside down weebles.)


bon bon - Mar 04, 2004 1:32:13 pm PST #2216 of 3902
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Viggo no-ego-speaks-three-languages-LOVES-his-horses-carries-his-sword-in-public-is-adored-by-all-unites-nations-brilliant-photographer-singer-poet-painter Mortensen?

Maybe he has flies in his eyes.

Or a mote.


DavidS - Mar 04, 2004 3:54:22 pm PST #2217 of 3902
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't know why famous people don't all fall over from the weight of their heads. They are like upside down weebles.

Pez dispensers, the lot of 'em.


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2004 4:00:41 pm PST #2218 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

(what does "flies in his eyes" mean?)

On the RotK soundtrack, where does the beacon lighting fit in? Is it The White Tree? I'm having terrible sequencing problems.


Kathy A - Mar 04, 2004 4:22:51 pm PST #2219 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Yup, Track 4 (The White Tree).

Track 1 = Smeagol/Gollum prologue.
Track 2 = Gandalf, Merry, and Pippin head for the stables up to Gandalf and Pippin's departure.
Track 3 = Music is shifted around a bit here; beginning is the Orcs landing at Osgiliath, followed by Gandalf driving off the Nazguls, then the music from Gandalf and Pippin arriving at MT.
Track 4 = Beacons.
Track 5 = Charge of the Gondorian Brigade (and Pippin).
Track 6 = What the title says.
Track 7 = I think it's from after Theoden and Eowyn speak at dawn until the Rohirrim break camp (the Shire-y music is the Merry scene).
Track 8 = Arwen's vision of Eldarion.
Track 9 = Frodo and Sam on the stairs ("Go home.")
Track 10 = Aragorn gets a present from his future FIL.
Track 11 = What the title says.
Track 12 = The siege of MT.
Track 13 = The Rohirrim charge at Pellenor.
Track 14 = Aragorn releases the Army of the Dead.
Track 15 = Battle at the Morannon intercut with the slopes of Mt. Doom.
Track 16 = Cracks of Doom.
Track 17 = From Frodo waking up to Sam kissing Rosie (with no cuts that I can tell!)
Track 18 = Gandalf and the hobbits leave Hobbiton for the Grey Havens to the ship sailing.