For me, the symbolism of Bag End made the clues of the Green Dragon and the voiceover about the "some wounds never heal" completely clear. It wasn't just a decorating choice, the stripped interior mirrored Frodo's mental and emotional interior. Even the warm golden cheery color had changed to a bleak blue-grey. I think it's all there, but then I did read the books, long ago.
Bunch of wanna blessed-bes. Nowadays every girl with a henna tattoo and a spice rack thinks she's a sister to the dark ones.
Willow ,'Bring On The Night'
LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".
Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
Beverly - Feb 16, 2004 10:03:54 am PST #1953 of 3902
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Hil R. - Feb 16, 2004 10:06:56 am PST #1954 of 3902
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
But didn't he explain the pain of staying was too much, because the wounds would never heal?
He may have, but I think that came after he said he was going. I think it would have made a little more sense if there was some exposition of "there's pain" then "the pain is too much" then "therefore, I must go," rather than "there's pain" then "I must go" then "because the pain is too much." So it was there, but, IMO, kind of awkwardly.
I think something missing is where he was going, and why that would be better,
Definitely. It took me a while to figure it out, and I don't think I totally processed it until he was actually at the boat.
scrappy - Feb 16, 2004 12:51:37 pm PST #1955 of 3902
Nobody
Well, the folk I know who didn't read the books and saw the film all got it--including my teenage nieces and nephews and a friend who not only didn't read the books, she didn't really like the first movie o much and had to be coaxed to see the last two. I was surprised by this, as I myself thought it wasn't that clear to non-readers.
Fiona - Feb 16, 2004 10:43:04 pm PST #1956 of 3902
Another non-book-reader here. Don't forget that if you haven't read the books and don't know that Frodo is leaving, it packs much more of a punch (similar to that felt by Sam and Mippen) when you realise that he's going too.
I got it: it isn't really spelled out explicitely until Frodo talks to Sam, but there are lots of little clues, which obviously weren't enough for some people, though.
sumi - Feb 17, 2004 5:08:33 am PST #1957 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!
And the Rolling Stone (dated sometime in early March) with Beyonce on the cover has an article about PJ and RotK.
The Horse is Good Viggo's new book of photographs. . . I may have to have it -- cause: HORSIES!
Interview with Viggo Mortensen
Anne W. - Feb 17, 2004 5:16:43 am PST #1958 of 3902
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
Ooh! Thanks for the link to the horsie book, sumi. You have just solved the dilemma of what to get my stepmom for Mother's Day.
sumi - Feb 17, 2004 5:19:15 am PST #1959 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!
Glad to help.
Anne W. - Feb 17, 2004 5:22:15 am PST #1960 of 3902
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
No problem. She's already weeping openly at previews for Hidalgo, so I think the book will be a hit. Now, to think of what on earth to get for biomom.
sumi - Feb 17, 2004 5:47:04 am PST #1961 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!
Just think, there may be pictures of the horse from Hidalgo in the book.
You will be the best Step-Daughter EVAH!
§ ita § - Feb 17, 2004 8:06:40 am PST #1962 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.