Sweetie, we're crooks. If everything were right, we'd be in jail.

Wash ,'Serenity'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


esse - Feb 09, 2004 5:23:42 am PST #1766 of 3902
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Huh. (The reason I mentioned it was because it's a bandwidth issue--usually when people share files they like people to go through the main page so they can track bandwidth usage.)


§ ita § - Feb 09, 2004 5:31:28 am PST #1767 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You can still track bandwidth usage from a direct link.


Steph L. - Feb 09, 2004 11:10:39 am PST #1768 of 3902
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Okay, I have a few TTT questions. (I was just at the gym, and caught the last half-hour of TTT, starting from when Theoden says "Is that it, Saruman? Is that all you've got?" Which is followed immediately by the Uruk-Hai Olympic torch bearer, which reminded us all of the axiom: Do Not Taunt The Dark Lord.)

1) The Nazgul -- they're the original 9 kings of men? They were corrupted b/c of the Ring?

2) The Rohrrim -- I remember that Theoden kicked Eomer out back at Edoras. But I thought the rest of Rohan, including the men, fled to Helm's Deep. So....where did the Rohrrim come from? Why weren't they already at Helm's Deep?

3) Why do people not see the Frodo/Sam love?


Dana - Feb 09, 2004 11:12:49 am PST #1769 of 3902
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

1) The Nazgul -- they're the original 9 kings of men? They were corrupted b/c of the Ring?

Yes.

2) The Rohrrim -- I remember that Theoden kicked Eomer out back at Edoras. But I thought the rest of Rohan, including the men, fled to Helm's Deep. So....where did the Rohrrim come from? Why weren't they already at Helm's Deep?

Eomer had some guys with him. Remember the group that met up with Legolas and Gimli and Aragorn at the beginning? One assumes that they remained loyal to Eomer.

3) Why do people not see the Frodo/Sam love?

Willfull blindness.


§ ita § - Feb 09, 2004 11:12:58 am PST #1770 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

1) Yes.

2) I don't think Eomer's riders fled to Helm's Deep. They were wandering off with Eomer.

3) BLIND, I tell you, BLIND.


Steph L. - Feb 09, 2004 11:16:23 am PST #1771 of 3902
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Eomer had some guys with him. Remember the group that met up with Legolas and Gimli and Aragorn at the beginning? One assumes that they remained loyal to Eomer.

But....when they come pouring down into Helm's Deep behind Gandalf, there's a kazillion of them! I would expect maybe his 3 closest buddies to be like "Yo, E-man, we ain't gonna desert youze. We're witcha the whole way." (Or something similar.)

But that's a lot of Rohrrim. It just seemed odd, given that I haven't read the books.


§ ita § - Feb 09, 2004 11:17:42 am PST #1772 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Eomer has a force, though. He takes them with.


Calli - Feb 09, 2004 11:20:25 am PST #1773 of 3902
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Eomer has a force, though. He takes them with.

And in RotK we see various bands of Rohrrim answering their King's call to arms. While there's no textev. that I remember in the movie, I could easily see Eomer et al picking up a few dozen extras enroute to Helms Deep.


Jessica - Feb 09, 2004 11:23:48 am PST #1774 of 3902
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

In banishing Eomer, Wormtongue also essentially banished the entire army (which was his goal, so that Rohan would be weak for Sauruman). The small band that Aragorn & co ran into weren't his entire force.


Elena - Feb 09, 2004 11:25:25 am PST #1775 of 3902
Thanks for all the fish.

And Aragorn tells Theoden that if he calls Eomer - either 300 or 3000 - riders will come with him.