Ack! Missed the links while they still linked to Fran and not Susan Sarandon (who I like fine, but isn't Fran). The Fran secret identify conspiracy continues, at least against me. Mutter, grumble. Guess I could drag my lazy uh, keyboard over to google.

ETA: Okay, not a conspiracy after all. Searching that yahoo site gave me a pic 30 seconds later. Sometimes I forget I can get stuff if I do stuff.

Um, JohnSweden -- later I linked to the picture on the TORN website -- which should still be Howard and Fran.

That one had changed too, sumi. It was just a direct link to the yahoonews page. But that page is searchable, so it is all good.

Sumi, it's not, it's Robbins and Sarandon.

Which made me go, "hey, Howard Shore looks a lot like Tim Robbins, and Fran is a hot-- oh."

Direct link would be nice? ::bats eyes::

Or try here.

Hey, ita, remember when you were talking about that thing that JM does that you saw Orlando do in a photo? Was it something like this?

Hee, sumi. Yes, it was that face, just tilted a little more downward.

the hilarity of Vince Vaughn playing a nice boy on the football team, probably the last nice boy character he ever played

He was nice in The Cell, wasn't he? I mean, nice enough. Still not going to do the homework necessary to accurately compare.

Fran and PJ need to stop dedicating their awards to dead people. You don't want to pull the moment down.

Who was the person mentioned?

I caught Master and Commander for the first time this weekend. I loved seeing Billy Boyd as a grownup, and a less-than-completely-sympathetic character. It really distanced him from the role of Pippen for me, and helped reinforce the fact that Pippen was, actually, a role Boyd was acting.

I've only seen Dom otherwise in the Hetty Wainwright series, done when he was considerably younger, and Merry is a lot like that character. I haven't seen him do anything else, but I'm sure he's quite able to. But his looks are not average, he couldn't disappear in a crowd scene, for example, and he's going to have to work some to overcome the cherubic face, I think.

EW is doing work in small films and small parts. He impresses me as very professional and self-aware, and I don't think he'll lack for creative work. Whether that is much in the public eye is probably irrelevant. Astin has been heading behind the camera for the last several years, and I think he'll work hard and succeed there, with perhaps an occasional acting role. Orlando is the one who's getting the big "star" push. Witness how quickly his people cleaned up that crazy boy public perception from early FotR days. No more mohawk, no more publicized bungee jumping out of cable cars. Not that he doesn't still do crazy stunts, but for the publicity cameras he's always groomed, adult, glamorous. If any of them will be a big traditional "star," it will be him.

Just IMO, of course.

he's going to have to work some to overcome the cherubic face, I think.

Cherubic? I think it's asymmetric and funny looking. Billy has a cherubic face, but his hair doesn't support it, and he can act right past it. Dom has a hotness, but I don't see the cherub part. In fact, it's a really dirty, nasty, bondage in an alley with a complete stranger sort of a thing.