he's going to have to work some to overcome the cherubic face, I think.

Cherubic? I think it's asymmetric and funny looking. Billy has a cherubic face, but his hair doesn't support it, and he can act right past it. Dom has a hotness, but I don't see the cherub part. In fact, it's a really dirty, nasty, bondage in an alley with a complete stranger sort of a thing.

The end of Rudy makes me cry every single time. He works so hard! And they all band together to make sure he gets to play once! And then he makes a tackle! And everyone cheers for him!

RU-DY!!! RU-DY!!! RU-DY!!!

And they carry him off the field. Which NEVER happens at Notre Dame. And he's so small once he gets out on that field with all those players. It's like Lucas but without Waif-Winona and the bleeding head.

Oh, I *loved* that movie! (Lucas, I mean.) Cheesey, yes, but I loved it.

And I *adore* The Goonies.

Where did I hear that the real-life Rudy was not as nice a man as Sean Astin? In fact, a real nasty article?

ita, I get that vibe, too. But I don't get mainstream with him. Even Hoffman could mainstream, with his quirky looks. I don't see those roles for Dom, and the ones his face seems to fit are marginal, as far as steady work goes. Not that he can't act past that, but he may not get the chances. I really hope I'm wrong, because I think he's talented, and I'd like to see him do more, and more versatile things.

Beverly, I heard the same thing abou the real Rudy. . . possibly in an interview with Sean Astin?

Could it have been on Dinner for Five?

But I don't get mainstream with him

No, me neither, until the back alley sex grabs centre stage.

Dom has a hotness, but I don't see the cherub part. In fact, it's a really dirty, nasty, bondage in an alley with a complete stranger sort of a thing.

so.very.broken.now.

No matter what - Sean Astin pulls my heartstrings. Patty Duke - bipolar mom, who's my Dad? - the whole thing. Yeah - he grew up all Hollywood - but that cannot have been an easy childhood.

Elijah Wood's had a remarkably well-managed career so far. Yes, he's been in a few bombs (Flipper? North?), but at least he was able to swim with dolphins in the first, and work with Rob Reiner in the second. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up taking a path similar to Johnny Depp--stick with quirky indies and build up his reputation until he gets past the "pretty boy" phase, and then move into character roles. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the height for leading roles.

Where did I hear that the real-life Rudy was not as nice a man as Sean Astin? In fact, a real nasty article?

I think that was from me--Rudy Ruettinger is from my hometown of Joliet (in fact, the HS we see him in in the film is my brother's alma mater--it was all-boys back in Rudy's day, as opposed to the film's version), and my stepmom has dealt with him at various city functions. She doesn't have the best opinion of the man, to put it mildly.

That's probably where I did hear it, Kathy.

I *adore* The Goonies.

Okay, confession time. In the cave troll scene in FotR? When Sam bashes orcs with the cooking pot and says, "I think I'm gettin' the hang of this." ? I flashed on Mikey from the Goonies. I mean, cave, troll-like John Matuzak, lots of hollering and rushing about, right? Can you blame me?

I mean, cave, troll-like John Matuzak, lots of hollering and rushing about, right?

My Goonies moment in RotK didn't have Sean Astin in it, oddly. I just though the main orc leader (with the mushed up face) on the Pelennor Fields looked just like Matuzak's Sloth.