It's simple. I slap 'em around a bit, torture 'em, make their lives hell...Sure, the nice guys'll run away,but every now and then you'll find a prince like Spike who gets off on it.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


§ ita § - Jan 26, 2004 9:24:16 am PST #1527 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

<buys for ita>

God, please no. Well, maybe The Goonies, but I will shoot you on sight if you try and make me watch Rudy.


Aims - Jan 26, 2004 9:25:09 am PST #1528 of 3902
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Really? Ok, No Rudy (is it a football movie thing?).


§ ita § - Jan 26, 2004 9:27:03 am PST #1529 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

No, it's a tearjerking trailer thing.

I know, with the whole "Pippin does good!" crypoint I have, one might think that short people overcoming might be my cup of tea. But the earnestness the trailers had put me right off my food.


tina f. - Jan 26, 2004 9:29:44 am PST #1530 of 3902

I loooooved Sean Astin in Rudy. Really. I wouldn't see that movie for years for the same reasons as ita, and then I happened upon it and just loved it.

t /big sap

I agree that Dom is doing the Hollywood thing more than any of them, but I also think what will save him, if he doesn't overindulge in his own fame, is that he has a good sense of humor, people seem to enjoy working with thim, and, more importantly, he has been a part of a weekly television series and several long-running plays so he has the whole work ethic thing going for him (in other words, it's not like he just got famous and thinks it's really this easy). Hopefully, anyway. I would love to see him have a decent go at a career.

t /big crush on Dom


Katie M - Jan 26, 2004 9:32:05 am PST #1531 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I will shoot you on sight if you try and make me watch Rudy.

The end of Rudy makes me cry every single time. He works so hard! And they all band together to make sure he gets to play once! And then he makes a tackle! And everyone cheers for him!


Aims - Jan 26, 2004 9:33:37 am PST #1532 of 3902
Shit's all sorts of different now.

And they carry him off the field. Which NEVER happens at Notre Dame. And he's so small once he gets out on that field with all those players. It's like Lucas but without Waif-Winona and the bleeding head.


tina f. - Jan 26, 2004 9:34:57 am PST #1533 of 3902

You had to mention them carrying him off the field!

Weeping a little now.


Aims - Jan 26, 2004 9:36:10 am PST #1534 of 3902
Shit's all sorts of different now.

tina - don't forget his entire, non-believeing, non-supportive family all GETTING OFF THE BUS in South Bend to watch him play. His father in tears from the stands.


Nutty - Jan 26, 2004 9:36:27 am PST #1535 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

The movie (and true story) of Rudy has been summed up thusly (unkindly): he whined until they let him into Notre Dame, then he whined until they let him onto the football team, and then he whined until they let him suit up for a game, and then he whined until they let him play. Moral of the story: persistence will get you everywhere. (It was a fun movie, not least watching these gigantic bruisers throw Sean Astin around like confetti, and he kept getting back up again.)

Not many opinions on the fates of actors in Hollywood; although I imagine it's a strike against one if one isn't terribly tall, being famous doesn't hurt. Agreed that eventually the world will discover that Orlando Bloom has the IQ of a vacuum cleaner, but as noted that has not stopped other people from staying famous and well-paid for nice long careers.


tina f. - Jan 26, 2004 9:38:49 am PST #1536 of 3902

don't forget his entire, non-believeing, non-supportive family all GETTING OFF THE BUS in South Bend to watch him play. His father in tears from the stands.

Wahhhhh!!

ignoring Nutty's Rudy-as-whiner summation, even though, yeah, that pretty much sums it up