It's simple. I slap 'em around a bit, torture 'em, make their lives hell...Sure, the nice guys'll run away,but every now and then you'll find a prince like Spike who gets off on it.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Beverly - Jan 25, 2004 8:00:36 pm PST #1492 of 3902
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

From your lips (fingertips) to the Academy's ear, Kathy.


tina f. - Jan 26, 2004 5:08:18 am PST #1493 of 3902

YAY. GGs were very fun last night. I had never actually seen Fran Walsh before - she's adorable!! I have never loved PJ more than when he thanked Tolkien when accepting the Best Picture award. And I was so happy that "Into the West" won, too. Yay.


Anne W. - Jan 26, 2004 5:08:59 am PST #1494 of 3902
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I wish I had watched the Golden Globes. Instead, I watched "Cold Case," which was very depressing.


Jessica - Jan 26, 2004 5:10:58 am PST #1495 of 3902
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Fran and PJ are so freaking adorable! I just love them.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 26, 2004 6:09:55 am PST #1496 of 3902
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I saw RotK again yesterday, and it holds up mighty well on second viewing. Still the shortest 3.5 hours I've spent in a movie theater.

The only section where the pacing started to bug me was the sequence leading up to Mt. Doom. The march to the Black Gate intercut with the last leg of the journey in Mordor seemed to compressed (Aragorn calls out at the gate and the eye moves off Sam and Frodo, but the time necessary after the two events doesn't seem to synch up).

Really liked EW when he chooses to keep the ring. That and the look back at Grey Havens were my two favorite Frodo moments.


Nutty - Jan 26, 2004 7:34:03 am PST #1497 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I had never actually seen Fran Walsh before - she's adorable!!

I was convinced I'd never put a name to the voice, based on the way the DVDs are presented. I guess, though, that if I were going to pick a moment to be the 'public face' of a creative couple, it would be while accepting awards for a large accomplishment. You're right, she is pretty, but I hadn't been paying attention, and I had to ask my roommate, "Who is that on the stage with Howard?" And I didn't believe her till Fran opened her mouth.

Ken, word on the compression of the march to the Black Gate. If it only took the combined armies of Everyone and Everybody 30 seconds to get there, how come it took Sam and Frodo seemingly weeks (and 2+ hours) to traverse the same territory heading in the other direction?? I mean, I know Hobbit legs are shorter, but this is ridiculous.

With luck, that means there's more to be put in there in the extendo-return. If the extendo edition is really going to be 4:15, I worry -- I can think of a lot of footage, probably more than 45 minutes, that needs to be shoehorned in!


Jessica - Jan 26, 2004 7:36:31 am PST #1498 of 3902
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

If it only took the combined armies of Everyone and Everybody 30 seconds to get there, how come it took Sam and Frodo seemingly weeks (and 2+ hours) to traverse the same territory heading in the other direction?? I mean, I know Hobbit legs are shorter, but this is ridiculous.

Either Pelennor Fields took place much earlier than it seems, or Frodo and Sam were standing on that cliff for several hours twiddling their thumbs waiting for the orcs to move. But as cut, the chronology doesn't hold up.


Katie M - Jan 26, 2004 7:39:08 am PST #1499 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Well, there's an awful lot of slogging across the Gorgoroth that doesn't get into the movie.


Elena - Jan 26, 2004 7:39:51 am PST #1500 of 3902
Thanks for all the fish.

I would think that The Houses of Healing on their own would be at least 30 minutes.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 26, 2004 7:43:43 am PST #1501 of 3902
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

But as cut, the chronology doesn't hold up.

Yeah, it's odd. They fixed the synch up between Shelob and the rest of the group, in that they now take place on-screen about when they'd take place in time, but then they compressed the hell out of the end-run and threw the timeline out of whack again.

Granted, the endless slog throught Mordor and "I can't go on...I must go on...it's so heavy..." is probably the hardest going for me these days on re-reading the books.