Do we actually *know* that Gimli's younger than Bilbo?
I went and looked it up, and he isn't. Bilbo was born in 2890; Gimli in 2879. (The events of LotR take place in 3018-19.) So Gimli is older than Aragorn, but certainly younger than Legolas.
Ben: I didn't ask for any of this. I just want to be normal. Gronx: I wanted to be an underwear model. We play the hand we're dealt.
'Touched'
LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".
Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
Katie M - Jan 08, 2004 7:33:09 pm PST #1335 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
§ ita § - Jan 08, 2004 7:33:57 pm PST #1336 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
So Gimli is older than Aragorn, but certainly younger than Legolas.
Ahh. So he owes nothing to the ring, then, save his continued relationship with his dad.
Katie M - Jan 08, 2004 7:36:07 pm PST #1337 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Hmm? What do you mean?
§ ita § - Jan 08, 2004 7:37:50 pm PST #1338 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Jess had said:
[Which means, ironically, that Gimli has the Ring to thank for his existance, since without it, Bilbo wouldn't have been able to get the dwarves out of prison.]
Sean K - Jan 08, 2004 7:38:52 pm PST #1339 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Hmm? What do you mean?
Somebody earlier brought up the possibility that Gimli owes his existence to the Ring, as Bilbo used it to get his dad out of Thranduil's hall.
Katie M - Jan 08, 2004 7:40:27 pm PST #1340 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Ah! Right.
Liese S. - Jan 08, 2004 8:00:38 pm PST #1341 of 3902
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
I'm glad someone looked this up, cause I was just sitting around idly thinking that Gimli was born before the Hobbit. But I a) didn't bother to look it up and b) didn't bother to post, so now I just look like a latecomer chiming in. But I am amazingly apathetic at the moment.
P.M. Marc - Jan 08, 2004 9:04:59 pm PST #1342 of 3902
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
So Gimli is older than Aragorn, but certainly younger than Legolas.
Cradle-robbing elf...
Volans - Jan 09, 2004 2:39:48 am PST #1343 of 3902
move out and draw fire
But in elf-years, Legolas certainly is a lad. So maybe it's an early instance of Gimli's race-sensitivity.
That and the fact he knows the word for "ladders" in elvish.
Jessica - Jan 09, 2004 4:29:21 am PST #1344 of 3902
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Well, that'll teach me to say things without looking them up in the Appendices first. I'd just assumed that Gimli had to be born post-Hobbit because otherwise, he would have been included on the trip.