The money was too good. I got stupid.

Jayne ,'Ariel'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Anne W. - Jan 05, 2004 6:06:56 am PST #1054 of 3902
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Hmm. It appears to be a simple enough tweed. I'm not crazy about the color--it doesn't look elven enough, IMO. They should be a subtle, luminous gray that iridesces slightly to green or brown.

pondering, and making a shopping list for the MD Sheep & Wool festival....


sumi - Jan 05, 2004 6:09:16 am PST #1055 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

The apple bit: did you listen to the Design Team commentary? Amusing non-floaty apple story there.

Also - so hoping there is an apple gag in RotK extended.

Kathy - -thanks for confirming the Imrahil- Finduilas relationship.

I had something else to say. . . what was it?

Oh -- yes! A&E's "Breakfast with the Arts" is featuring LotR on January 11th.

Also, a friend of mine heard that RotKEE might be coming out really early -- like in May. . . have any of you guys heard that one?


Jessica - Jan 05, 2004 6:11:45 am PST #1056 of 3902
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Also, a friend of mine heard that RotKEE might be coming out really early -- like in May. . . have any of you guys heard that one?

Oooh, if it's true, that's good news. But I've also heard that the RotKEE is going to clock in at 5 hours, and if that's true (which I hope it is), I don't see how they could possibly finish it that soon. (Though I guess not having anothing film coming out next year would speed things up.)

(So, really, I have no idea.)


Gleebo - Jan 05, 2004 6:12:38 am PST #1057 of 3902
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs

RotK extended in May aleady?? Sweet if it is true. Wonder how much extended time it will have.


sumi - Jan 05, 2004 6:13:18 am PST #1058 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

I heard the 5 hour thing too -- but imagine that not doing pick-ups, editing for another film will ease things a bit for them.

But that means that next Christmas -- no LotR. . . which is sad.


Gleebo - Jan 05, 2004 6:16:50 am PST #1059 of 3902
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs

The LotR trilogy was the first movies that I have enjoyed from start to finish in a long, long, ever. They were so good they made me forget completely about the mediocreness of M*trix Reloaded and the absolute suckiness of M*trix R**volutions.

I can't see anything getting me in the theatres for a good long while. Or at least until or if Firefly happens. Then, I may have my mail forwarded to the theatres.


tina f. - Jan 05, 2004 6:19:14 am PST #1060 of 3902

But that means that next Christmas -- no LotR. . .

What? Huh? - I could have sworn someone just said something about no LotR next Christmas but I was so busy what with the staring at the pretty pyramids....

I have a friend who knows nada about the books and movies (but knows I am a freak about them) who saw FotR for the first time last week. She called sooooo sad that Gandalf was dead. She must have seen a zillion trailers for TTT and RotK where he is RIGHT THERE. But - she actually thought he was dead. I tried to comfort her but...come on...that is freakishly un-spoiled.


Katie M - Jan 05, 2004 6:29:35 am PST #1061 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I highly doubt that any written passage could do justice to how damn sexy they all are.

Er. Heh. *head explodes* No. No, the books are... not so much about the sex.


Nutty - Jan 05, 2004 6:34:19 am PST #1062 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

My roommate is the sort who would watch TTT and be like, "Wait, isn't the White Wizard the bad guy? Surely he --" and I'd have to shush her for the 0:59 that it would take for the story to explain that part. She is very much with the unspoiled anticipatory quibbling.

the reason that I, as a non-Tolkien-reader, expected Frodo to die is that Galadriel says that Frodo is beginning to realize he won't survive (or something to that effect).

"The quest will take his life." Which is actually sort of true, but only sort of. The films don't make nearly so clear how wrecked he is when he gets back to the Shire. Instead of being sore on the anniversary of getting stabbed at Weathertop, he spends the whole day in bed moaning. In the books, it's sort of a relief that he's going someplace where the pain will stop.

I don't know about the extendo-Return on DVD come May. That's pretty fast -- 5 months -- for a normal theatrical film, and leaves not a lot of time for the recording of interviews, the editing and assembling of appendix materials, and then the (1) re-edit of the film, (2) the [re-]completion of the digital effects, (3) the re-recording of dialogue, (4) the reworking of music, and then (5) the recording of commentary tracks. Having nobody busy working on a next film frees up some people-hours, but there are still things that need to be done in sequence, so the process can't be sped up that much.


§ ita § - Jan 05, 2004 6:39:13 am PST #1063 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I heard that the five hours was a mis-statement -- that the > 4 hours and 50 minutes was supposed to be > 4 hours and 15 minutes.